batman fans who only saw the movies: the joker is the best villain ever, he is such an intricate and profound character and he challenges batman in a way no one else could ever by exposing the unpopular yet harsh reality of life
batman fans who read the comics: the joker is a piece of shit i hope he dies choking on five of jason todd’s guns and stays dead and forgotten
-Canonically he’s fairly violent depending on the severity of the situation, as shown by the time he beat the Joker to death with his bare hands when he thought that he killed Tim
-He can either get really quiet and tense or really loud and destructive (there is no in-between)
-Sometimes when he’s disappointed in someone, he emulates some of Bruce’s habits, such as being extremely quiet and terrifying, which is really alarming considering how chatty he usually is. Whoever is the subject of his disapproval is quick to try and reconcile so as to avoid his wrath
-He definitely holds grudges and will not hesitate to pull out receipts from years ago that will without fail ruin whoever dares oppose him when he gets in a mood
-It’s startling to those who haven’t ever seen him angry to experience a snap because it’s such a shift in character but it’s still him; he’s still a human being who experiences anger, he isn’t always happy go lucky Dick Grayson who never feels negative emotions. He can be incredibly vindictive and spiteful if prompted in any way
comics are the worst because it’s just like people writing a bunch of fanfics over the span of decades, some good but mostly bad, except it all gets entered into canon until you have an amalgam of different stories and characters that don’t really make sense that you gotta salvage some meaning from
Bruce: What did you do with my son?
Jason: I’m your son.
Bruce: What did you do with my oth– you. You. … Yes, you are.
Jason: Are you okay…?
Bruce: You’re my son, Jason.
Jason: … Okay, you’re making me feel super weird, so.
Jason: …
Jason: I tossed Tim in a dumpster because he fell asleep. Grab him and get away, Kay?
Jason: Bye.
*Jason leaves*
Bruce: Jason is my son. He still thinks of himself as my son. *melts a little*