Angrod

  • 1-3 things I enjoy about them

He is easy to write and works wonderfully for me as a POV.

Arfinwion Exilic Noldor. Most tolerable form of the breed.

See answer below for favorite quote- but short version: he redeems (not completely but at least makes an effort towards re-balancing) the incredibly vile moral debt that the Noldor as a whole have incurred to Sindar. Not at first, and reacting out of defensive brotherly feelings for Finrod and tired of being belittled and undermined and then grouped with people who have murdered or tried to murder members of his family. But he does. He has the most moral high ground and integrity of any of the Exiles.

He never looses sight that his reason for being in Beleriand is to fight Morgoth. Not the gems, not empire building, not attacking non-Morgoth allied groups.

He supports and listens to Fingolfin, is one of the few that are actively supporting FIngolfin’s desires as High King of the Noldor in Beleriand and therefore giving validation and political weight to that title. Because if the fellow princes do not, that leadership title is meaningless – feudal ties are a two-way mutual support and if the lower end of the hierarchy does not buy into the social contract, there is no organized society. Angrod and Aegnor’s loss after the Bragollach is what destroys the High Kingship as anything but lip-service, though it is the loss of Finrod the Diplomat and C&C destroying any trust and moral standing among allies that is the final death knell.  

  • Something interesting about them based on tenuous circumstantial evidence

His grandfather was Olwë – he must have had a great deal of familiarity with Alqualondë, with sailing and the ocean and ‘Iron Grip’ conjures images of him holding firmly onto lines for the sails or the steering rudders. 

  • A question I have about them

Orodreth is older brother or son? Because I flip-flop on this question constantly. Also, did the name Iron-grip mean Tolkien wanted any Noldor smithing traits assigned to Angrod or was this solely a martial epithet? What was his thoughts on the whole Aegnor/Andreth situation?

  • A random relevant line I like

Then Angrod spoke bitterly against the sons of Fëanor, telling of the blood at Alqualondë, and the Doom of Mandos, and the burning of the ships at Losgar. And he cried: ‘Wherefore should we that endured the Grinding Ice bear the name of kinslayers and traitors?’

Truth! Maybe it’s the years of reading Wheel of Time, but look, common decency and telling your allies crutial info.

Look, you want to know the direct comparison to the Noldor coming into Beleriand and lying to Thingol’s face and his people about murdering Thingol’s people and kin, if only by omission? It would be exactly if the Valar, upon paroling Morgoth, had not informed any of the Elves that this is Morgoth and he had been responsible for the capture and torture of elves in Cuiviénen, that because they think he’s repentant now (and without imprisoning Morgoth in Mandos for as long as they did or at all) the Ainur will stay silent about his crimes, his history of rebellion, in fact will lie and imply or say that Morgoth has always obeyed Eru. In fact it would be as if Morgoth showed up to that party after murdering Finwë and losing the Silmarils to Ungoliant and because now he wants to go after that spider in revenge he’s totally on Manwë’s side and no one says anything to Fëanor or Fingolfin or the rest of the Noldor. The lack of fandom outrage on behalf of the Sindar for the Kinslaying is gross.

  • My preferred version, if there is more than one version of their story (or part of their story)

Aside from my headcanon version?

Published Silm version. Ignore any version that has them joining the Fëanorians on the ships or a friendship that survives that moment (With the rest of their characterization)

  • Favorite relationship(s)

He lived among the Bëorians for several generations, had a working early-feudal style relationship (which are deeply personal bonds), died beside and for them. 

And Aegnor.

And Edhellos. (Question yet again- Eldalotë has a Sindarin name because she went into Exile or is this a Arfinwë=Finarfin thing?)

  • How would they react to Tom Bombadil

No clue.

  • Optional: Something about them that I think people forget

See moral high-ground. Trumps even Finrod in that respect.

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In order:

Finrod-Nóm, Finrod, Orodreth, Angrod 01, Angrod 02, Aegnor, Galadriel

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Notes:

For my favorite set of Finwions, making sigils for them was a royal pain. Suffice to say, my difficulties with designing and crafting these sigils mean I’m not as happy with the end result as some of the other endeavors. Still, they work well for my purposes.

The color scheme for the offspring of Finarfin take their cues from the only Tolkien Original for any of them that I have to work with: Finrod Felagund’s sigil, made after he discovered the Edain, and obviously something constructed by humans instead of elves.

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“The Adventures of Irongrip and Rage-bunny”

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Re-posting “The Adventures of Irongrip and Rage-Bunny” because I like to share pain. Plus I edited it a bit for eventual AO3 cross-posting and I love this fic of mine. Wanted the new followers to have a chance to read it. (Please help me pick a serious name.) Hold Fast Ere Night Comes

Warnings for violence, a little bit of gore, a few deaths, a very oblique not-mention of orc eating habits, and maudlin frustrated Angrod narrating about quasi-suicidal Aegnor. Cameos from several Bëorians, including Bregolas; Andreth is off-screen though pivotal to the plot. Some other elves like Edhellos. Also some Orcs and Glaurung.

But mostly Angrod, Aegnor, and the love for mortals

“Darkness fell in the room. He took her hand in the light of the fire. ‘Whither go you?’ she said.

‘North away,’ he said: ‘to the swords, and the siege, and the walls of defence – that yet for a while in Beleriand rivers may fun clean, leaves spring, and birds build their nests, ere Night comes.’

‘Will he be there, bright and tall, and the wind in his hair? Tell him. Tell him not to be reckless. Not to seek danger beyond need!’

‘I will tell him,’ said Finrod. ‘But I might as well tell thee not to weep. He is a warrior, Andreth, and a spirit of wrath. In every stroke that he deals he sees the Enemy who long ago did thee this hurt.”

  • “Athrabeth Finrod ah Andreth” – Morgoth’s Ring, HoMe X

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Wha’cha Gonna Call It?

From that very old AU where Aegnor and Andreth do marry and have a daughter, but everything still isn’t happy rainbows and no convenient Eönwë proclamation for the very serious issue in Tolkien of a soul bound with 100% certainty to Arda and zero ambiguity about eternity and afterlife versus one that does have all that, and what does that make their impossible offspring? But about lighter problems than those issues. Eventually.

It started with a question which should have been harmless. Everyone had already exhausted all the thorny or offensive or just plain unanswerable questions like why Aegnor married a mortal and was that even possible or ethical or physically possible. The last question turned Angrod’s brother a very bright red, though his new sister-in-law, Andreth, only gave him a look that could have turned Tarn Aeliun into a dry valley. No, neither of them had any idea if their souls would have a chance to stay together after Andreth’s inevitable demise, or if Aegnor was doomed to a widowhood that not even Grandfather Finwë had faced. Having his prudent advice ignored, their big brother Finrod down in Nargothrond was now writing letters to all the Wise-women of the three Edain tribes and the philosophers among the Eldar (which consisted mostly of Finrod himself, two advisers of Thingol, and one loremaster living with Fingolfin – the majority of the Noldor either uninterested in esoteric questions of soul, especially strange mortal ones, or had stayed behind in Aman to begin with) to bring together in a colloquy to discuss the impact of the first marriage of immortal to mortal and any possible changes or transfers in the nature of their bodies and souls. The philosophers were still struggling with the definition of a soul that appeased everyone, immortal and mortal, before moving onto the thorny questions concerning the union of them. “Or you could come up and visit,” Aegnor had said, though the idea of becoming his brother’s newest focus of heavy scholastic observation was not thrilling. Finrod still had not been convinced this marriage was not a disaster waiting to happen but kept those reservations private. The belated wedding gift to Aegnor and Andreth had been accompanied by a note scolding them for the lack of invitation, which Angrod found a little ‘closing the barn door after the horses’, to quote Belegor. And it wasn’t as if Angrod had been present to fulfill the role of father-of-groom, as Aegnor had delivered the news fait accompli with Andreth in tow. The mild admonishments in the letter he received had been utterly unwarranted. But Finrod had pointedly declared his support of the union with a gift. Publicly he was loudly and enthusiastically supportive. He had even shouted down their half-cousins for implying Andreth, as a mortal, was as beneath a prince of the House of Finwë as one’s horse and bordering on bestiality to begin with. Sensitive on behalf of the Edain in general, that insult to mortals, the House of Bëor, House of Finarfin, and his baby brother and favorite sister-in-law had goaded Finrod to not only shouting but nearly throwing nearby objects. Angrod had been very proud.

Andreth’s side of the family, Boromir of Ladros and his kin, had their own set of reservations about their eldest daughter marrying one of their elven liege lords without telling anyone, but the fuss they made was much quieter. Funnily enough, the most awkward part, after Beril screamed at her sister for daring to do this without informing her at all, was Lord Boromir addressing Aegnor as ‘Son’ with an uncomfortable grimace. Aegnor was delighted and had immediately taken to calling the old Bëorian lord ‘Father’.

Secretly, Angrod wondered if this whole mess should have been a surprise, for Aegnor had assimilated to the Bëorians in Ladros more rapidly than their sister had to Doriath. Every morning Angrod checked his brother for sign of stubble on his cheek or gray hairs, for that was the inevitable next step after learning the mortal tongue, drinking mortal beer and eating that mortal food dish involving stuffing animal organs with more meat, wearing mortal clothing, staying in mortal halls, and falling in love with a mortal woman.

Everyone was curious to see if Aegnor and Andreth could conceive a child, the disparities of soul and body balanced against similarities, and Finrod’s colloquy by correspondence side-tracked into tangents involving hypothetical marriages between elf and dwarf and mortal men and dwarves and how would those unions work. This led to some questions about Círdan that made Thingol and the other old Sindar howl with laughter, with the eventual consensus reached that conception was impossible. Until of course the morning Andreth announced she was. Edhellos pulled the other woman aside to congratulate and appraise, Aegnor broke into loud and euphoric song over the pregnancy, and Angrod smiled and began a new letter to send to Orodreth and onward to the rest of Beleriand. The following celebration over that piece of news in Boromir’s great hall in Ladros involved copious dancing and alcohol. It was only some time after the hangovers were lingering and Edhellos was trying to reassure Andreth over a misunderstanding about the duration of elven pregnancies (”A whole year!” was the scream heard throughout the mead hall) that Angrod thought to ask the question that should have been harmless.

“So will be a boy or girl?” he asked his younger brother.

“What?” Aegnor replied.

“Which one? So you know what father-name to pick out.”

Aegnor made a slow sort of noise, which Angrod thought was a little ridiculous, considering his brother had an even higher alcohol tolerance and thus completely avoided hangovers, a trait that served Aegnor well while dealing with all his new in-laws.

“Which naming tradition are you following, anyway? Mortals only chose one and tend to stick with it, I noticed, but the Bëorians like to use similar names from father to son.”

“I don’t know.”

“What do you mean? Has Andreth not told you?”

Aegnor shrugged. “It’s not a mortal thing. She and her relatives explained it. They can guess, and Boromir’s wife says there’s all these little sayings that are supposed to predict, but they aren’t always right.”

“But the mother is carrying the child in her body. How can she not know her own? And how do they have prophetic insights for mother-names? I know those are not always clear, but Mother said she had a good inkling with all of us before we were born.”

“We’ll guess,” Aegnor said. “Andreth says you pick out a good name for either gender before the birth and go with that. Adanel says sometimes a relative or close friend of the parents is the one to chose the name, not the parents.”

Angrod was not sure what to make of this, but he was also still a little hungover. “So have you picked any out yet?”

His answer was a drawn-out groan.

Seven and a half months later, neither Aegnor or Andreth had picked out possible names for their child that both considered perfect. Edhellos addressed her soon-to-born niece or nephew as ‘that’ with an accompanying elaborate airy hand wave and half-smile, and Bregor was running a betting pool on the gender and name, which Angrod would swear to Mandos he knew nothing about. Finrod had written scrolls filled with suggestions and fanciful calligraphy for each option in both tengwar and runes, hoping that a visual preference might assist the debate over mouth-sounds. Orodreth did not weigh in on the great name debate; his concerns centered solely on if the child would be born healthy. Little Finduilas was very excited and was firmly convinced her new cousin would be another girl.

The concerns over health also preoccupied Aegnor and Andreth far more than naming, for this child was the first of its kind and had no guarantee of anything. It was bad enough that regular mortal births had unsettling chances of becoming deaths for mother and/or child, and not just in the weariness of spirit that Serindë succumbed to. Birth fevers and breach-births and other mortal horror stories quickly circulated through the castle, despite the best assurances of Andreth’s kinfolk. Old Gildis took one look at Andreth, then at how much taller Aegnor was, and tutted. While not as tall as Cousin Turgon, Aegnor could still comfortably look Cousin Maedhros in the eyes before he was forty, and thus out of all the sons of Finarfin, he was the only one not completely towered over by Great-uncle Thingol. Andreth was of average height – for the People of Bëor. If the baby was as big as the crone feared, Andreth was going to have a hell of a time pushing through her skinny hips. No one knew how seriously to believe that dire proclamation. The newness and uncertainty of the situation worried everyone but Cousin Lúthien, who refused to understand the fuss. She existed, did not she? Still, with that in mind, King Thingol lifted his ban on allowing mortals to enter through the Girdle, as the exception of kin-blood now applied, and together he and Queen Melian offered that Andreth come to Menegroth where the Maia could watch over her. Aegnor and Andreth kindly thanked them for the offer but declined, for her pregnancy had advanced that even by swiftest boat down the Narog River and horse they would not reach Menegroth before the due date. The King and Queen of Doriath still sent a glorious conception gift, several beautiful tapestries to hang in the nursery with a promise of more gifts to follow once the child was born. Finrod sent up a golden circlet set with emeralds and a small harp, among a veritable mountain of other gifts. Fingon also sent a harp, and King Fingolfin promised a fine horse once the child was big enough to ride. From Himring came more jewels. From Brethil came a set of carved wooden spoons. Traditionally there would also be a wooden cradle for first-time parents, wrote Finrod, but he had explained to Haldan that one was being provided by Orodreth and his wife. Gathering up all these gifts and the diplomatic entailment was something Angrod was glad not to deal with, most of all because he was not the one forced to explain the difference between the elven celebration of a new child’s conception versus the mortal celebration of a child’s birth. Of the reasons for this difference Angrod would have been happy to have never learned that for mortals a child was not always carried to term. He wished he could have held that knowledge from Aegnor.

Andreth’s labor began with fortuitous good time in the morning, leaving plenty of time to call for her relatives before the birthing pains increased in frequency. The nonchalant acceptance of the mortals for birthing times to last hours and sometimes over a day had turned Edhellos snow-white in sympathetic pain, and Angrod’s wife praised the unnatural strength and endurance of mortal women. Angrod concurred. He also wondered, not for the first time, how was it possible that the mortals were able to have such large families compared to the elves.

Aegnor fought with the Bëorian midwife about allowing him into the room while Andreth was laboring. Such constant clashing between the customs of the Eldar and Edain were the hallmark of this marriage, which Finrod found fascinating from an academic perspective even as he did his best to smooth them over along with the rest of the family. Finrod, however, was physically nowhere near Dorthonion and thus unable to intercede between the fight. Wise of him, Angrod thought. With a little shouting of his own, Angrod convinced the midwife to allow Aegnor in. Andreth needed the target for all her soon-to-be curses, and Aegnor would be worse than useless until the babe was born, so let him sit quietly at her side and offer support.

“I won’t be useless.”

“Yes you will,” Angrod cut Aegnor off. “Agree to anything Andreth says; remember most of what she will say will come from the pain.” He wanted to give more advice, but Aegnor had already left.

The day passed, the stars rose, and the castle waited for the shouts to push, the groans of pain, the hustling of maids for more clean towels, and the worried demands of family to finally cease. The longer it took, the more all the horror stories about mortal births and the uncertainties of if this fit in Ilúvatar’s plan crowded their thoughts. Everyone was tired, none more than Andreth, for it was now almost dawn.

Angrod held Edhellos, breathing in the scent of his wife’s hair and shaking with his own fear. He knew if Andreth or the babe did not survive the birth, his brother would blame himself and along with most of Beleriand take it as a sign of Ilúvatar’s proscription against such a union. Aegnor would chose death by grief then.

He prayed, using the same chants the mortals did, listing out the names of all the Valar but to Mandos and Estë and Vána most of all. Edhellos sang her own prayers, those she used while birthing foals.

“A girl!” the midwife shouted over the cries of the newborn and Andreth. Angrod could hear Aegnor weeping, this time bright with triumph, on the other side of the door, and Andreth’s tired but firm demands to see her child.

With a silent praise to the Valar, Angrod sagged with boneless relief. “A girl. Living. Healthy. That answers a few questions.” Between his remarks, Edhellos griped his face and kissed him in relief and joy.

“Yes, now everyone knows what other gifts to send,” Edhellos said. She had assisted with the letters to the various kings and princes of Beleriand, each desirous to know the appropriate gifts.

After cooing over the newborn and appraising the perfection of her minuscule features, Aegnor carried her out to meet her uncles and aunts as the maids helped to straighten and clean Andreth’s bedding so the woman could rest. As Beril and Edhellos proclaimed her beautiful and Bregor opened the window so the light of the sunrise could illuminate a glowing Aegnor and his newborn daughter, Angrod opened his mouth and ruined the moment.

“I thought of the perfect name for her!”

Aegnor was too distracted by the sunlight on his daughter’s red face and the wisps of stiff golden hair on her head. His focus was on his daughter’s eyes blinking open.

“You should name her Nómwen.”

That drew everyone’s attention away from the infant.

Grinning in response to everyone’s flat and disbelieving stares, Angrod explained his genius. “It is perfect. The name is half Taliska and half Sindarin, just like our… peredhel. It honors both her mother, Saelind, and Finrod who started everything by finding and befriending Bëor’s people. And it is similar to Nerwen, so it fits the family name.” Angrod made a face. “Be careful, brother. She is likely to be another like our sister. Combine our side of the family with how stubborn the Bëorians are – Bregor, be honest, the only mortals more pig-headed are the Haladim, and I mean this as praise – and your daughter will be impossible. Not to mention spoiled by everyone; you have heard what toys Finrod has commissioned from the dwarves, right? The best we can hope for is Cousin Lúthien.” Thingol and Melian’s daughter was fortunately exceptionally beautiful and good-natured, willing to believe the best of everyone she interacted with and generally gregarious with company. As she was also so stubborn as to make her father Thingol seem weak-willed, the obstinacy of her character was rarely on display.

“Angrod, I am not naming my daughter Nómwen.”

Still unsteady on her feet and only wearing a long shift, Andreth walked through the doorway to hear Angrod unsuccessfully cajoling her husband to name her daughter. Sweaty, tired, and radiant, she firmly vetoed that name along with Aegnor.

“What are you naming her?” Beril pressed to forestall the family argument.

Aegnor looked down at his daughter, at the dawn highlighting the wisps of bright golden hair she had inherited from him. “Anárwen,” he said.

Privately, Angrod thought his new niece’s name was silly, despite the symbolism. It did not help that everyone decided that gifts themed around Arien became vogue to send to the newborn girl, and praised how fiercely she glared. Finduilas was smug.

He still called her Nómwen, to the disapproval of the girl’s parents.