amostexcellentblog:

How People Think the DC Trinity Works:

Bruce & Clark: making dumb jokes

Diana: Children, I work with children

How the DC Trinity Should Work:

Diana: How can you defend a country where 5% of the people control 95% of the wealth?

Bruce: I’m defending a country where people can think, act, and worship anyway they want!

Clark: Hey, hey, hey, stop fighting. Now Diana, maybe Bruce’s right about America being a land of opportunity. And Bruce, Diana does have a point about the machinery of capitalism being oiled with the blood of the workers.

stumblinthrulife:

jokin-around:

people always talk about how batman’s tragic backstory is weak because we know nothing about his parents or his relationship with them,but like, none of that really matters. it’s not about what he lost or what he had, it’s about the EVENT. 

it’s about the sudden change, it’s about fate, it’s about trauma. it’s not even about losing people he cares about really, it’s the fact that his life went from sheltered, from comfortable, from being emotionally stable, to everything it is now, in an instant, all because some guy with a gun turned the wrong corner.

and the thing is, the severity of what happened doesn’t matter either. plenty of people are orphans, plenty of people have lost someone they loved, but i think in batman’s case, what turned him INTO batman was not having the tools he needed to deal with it all. he came from a sheltered life, he’d probably never seen blood before, he’d probably never walked down a dark alley at night before, never seen a gun first hand before, never had to think about his life being any different than it was. 

and then all of that changed in a split second and it broke him. and i think he beats himself up over how hard he took it, i think he’s mad at himself for being so distraught when so many people he knows have lost so much more than he had that night, and seem to be doing so much better than he is…  and i think he’s mad that because of how he’s coping he’s continuing to lose people he loves..

all and all, i think his story is a great example of how everyone handles trauma, no matter how severe, differently.some people need more help, some people need more time,and for some people, it never goes away and it never fades, even if there are plenty of people around them who just want them to be OK.

Congratulations, jokin-around, your post inspired so many thoughts that it actually made me stop lurking and finally get my own tumblr.

Prepare for wall of text!

‘Cause if we’re gunna talk about how Batman is a study in trauma and reactions to it, we gotta mention Robin (specifically mark I). See, if we were to pretend that trauma can be objectively measured, Dick Grayson’s was worse than Bruce Wayne’s. Both witnessed the brutal murder of both their parents, but Dick had far more room to blame himself, plus he was then torn away from everything else he every knew. So why did Bruce turn into the Dark Knight and Dick into one of the most aggressively cheerful, compassionate, and empathetic heroes in the DCU?

Well, they are different people, but also? 

Support systems.

Because Dick had Bruce, but Bruce had Alfred.

And I don’t want to denigrate Alfred. Alfred is amazing. He is smart, and tough, and loving. He holds the batfamily together with his bare hands, even though they sometimes react about as well as a sleeping cat being removed from a patch of sunlight.

He is also the butler.

And no matter how much Bruce and Alfred love each other like father and son, neither can escape the fact, because they have both lived their entire lives in a social structure defined by class differences and master/servant relationships, and it controls their actions in ways they probably don’t even recognize.

But there is a reason Alfred’s gestures of affection tend to take the form of food or support. There is a reason his criticisms tend to take the form of sarcasm or passive aggression. That reason is the Rule of Butlering, and the Rules of Butlering put up very thick walls that it would not occur to either Bruce or Alfred to cross.

Sidenote: The Alfred we know is probably less formal than the one Bruce grew up with due to the influence of Dick, and later Jason, who grew up outside of the high-society world. While Bruce and Alfred (and later Tim, probably) would have taken the Rules of Butlering for granted, Dick and Jason would have been less aware of them and more liable to notice when they were problematic. So they trampled all over those master/servant walls, sometimes accidentally and sometimes usually, in Jason’s case deliberately, until those walls became far thinner and far lower.

Point is, the Rules of Butlering meant that Alfred simply could not give Bruce a lot of what he needed.

On to Dick.

Bruce has been clear that he took Dick in to keep Dick from becoming Bruce. See, Bruce knows he his not an emotionally healthy man. Why he does not do more about this is a different post, since this is already a monster. And his whole ethos as Batman is about saving other people from what he went through. And while he may have set out simply to give Dick closure and then keep CPS from traumatizing him even worse, he ended up providing him the support structure he needed to heal.

Because trauma is not just about what happens to you. It’s also about what happens next.

frownyalfred:

feynites:

andhumanslovedstories:

The best cover for Bruce Wayne would be dumb carefree playboy who is also Instagram Optimistic, everyday he’s posting a selfie of his smiling at his breakfast with a caption like “it’s a waffle day! #goodvibesingotham #grateful” or a picture of a sunrise with a caption that’s just “wow #blessed” 

Bruce Wayne ending up as Gotham’s favoured son because he may be an idiot, but he’s a cheerful idiot, and he donates tons to charity and genuinely loves Gotham and actually, truthfully does put a lot back into the city. And his instagram is a bright ray of sunshine, and honestly there are a lot of people in the city who get surprisingly defensive of their Dumb Carefree Playboy because, okay, sure, every month or so Bruce Wayne falls off a yacht or sleeps with a reporter or whatever. The man clearly never met a healthy coping skill even once in his life.

But as far as news regarding Gotham’s prominent citizens go, Bruce’s ‘scandals’ are so normal that it’s downright refreshing. When a headline has ‘Bruce Wayne’ in the title, you know you’re either going to read some Celebrity Gossip level non-drama, or else something to do with a charity. Maybe he’s been kidnapped again, but that’s only happened a few times. Bruce Wayne news is like the Gotham equivalent to special reports about dogs who rescue their owners from drowning, or raccoons who’ve figured out how to get past the new self-locking garbage can lids.

And there’s something weirdly reassuring about following his twitter. Like, if Bruce Wayne is tweeting about a really neat old tree he just saw, things must at least be sort of alright.

(Meanwhile, Bruce’s social media persona is 100% him flanderizing Clark.)

It’s also the perfect cover for distracting gotham. Joker breaks out of Arkham? Penguin just exploded a giant squid downtown?

News would be covering Brucie’s swimming pool he bought exclusively for his ward’s dog, in a penthouse which cost millions, conveniently uptown from whatever’s happening. They bring two experts on air to discuss if extended chlorine exposure is bad for dogs.

(It isn’t)

I feel like one of theses days the joker is gonna spray Gotham with laugh gas and NOTHING will happen. The citizen of Gotham will have built an immunity from all the chemical shit that gets thrown at them.

wombatking:

osheamobile:

kiragecko:

elfgrove:

osheamobile:

elfgrove:

osheamobile:

elfgrove:

I don’t think that’ll happen. Immunity to chemicals/poisons tends to be built up in matters of small exposures (I think, not my field) and the villains would have to be using the same basic chemicals every time, not likely. You’d also have to survive the prior exposures which seems not very Gotham~y. — Besides, it’s a fictional city and that wouldn’t make for a good story precedent to set, the citizens as immune to such a common plot point.

Now what I’d like to see is the people of Gotham building an immunity to widespread media panic about said Joker Gas.

It becomes like a pollen count on the weather. “And today’s expected Joker Toxin index is listed at 15.4, so make sure to put those breakable objects away on high shelves and put the kids to bed early, because this is going to be a bad one.”

And then the next panel shows an average family just matter-of-fact, getting the seatbelts (that they’ve installed by now) and strapping themselves in while green and/or purple clouds start filtering in through the window, so they’re safely secured when they start to have painful hysterical fits.

Every time the Joker breaks out, sporting goods stores have a BOGO sale on mouthguards.

Yes.

And like certain cities I know of down South where there’s a chemical depot, many citizens actually own gas masks and there’s sirens for leaks.

You wanna help out Bruce? Those gas masks that you and the Robins don to such good effect (until a villain knocks it off mid-fight), have Wayne Enterprises “develop” a cost-effective public version to sell since it’s such a regular issue. How to keep your giant ass company in business and make your night job easier. Hell, given how regularly it comes up, the government would pay for it. They do in real life.

I’d love to see little things about how there’s water filters commonly purchased advertised by being “Gotham-Grade” or how it was tested and proven to filter out chemicals just like was used in the Scarecrow’s last attack. Stuff like that.

Immunity isn’t likely, but companies capitalizing on the commonality of the threat, locals being desensitized to the repeated same threat situations — that’s stuff I’d buy.

I grew up in North Alabama. — We are not going in the safe room yet, that tornado cell isn’t close and it’s gonna be really boring sitting in a closet with the battery operated radio. Just leave the weather coverage running on the TV and come help fix dinner. — You learn to read how much of an immediate issue commonly occurring dangers are and you take reasonable action without flipping out. It’s part of the routine.

“Honey, get back here and finish your dinner. You heard the radio; Killer Croc is two blocks south of here and going the wrong direction. Your food’s getting cold.”

This is exactly the kind of Gothamite I would expect.

“Channel 8 says the fight with Freeze is going on in Tribeca and headed towards the West Village, your school is not going to be closed tomorrow. Now go write your report. You’ll wish you had to deal with Batman if you bring home one more D in Mr. Jones class.”

People choose entertainment based on how nondescript the name and theme are, and places with giant smiling faces/puns of ANY kind quickly go bankrupt. Street and buildings have been quietly renumbered so there are less 2s. Restaurants close on holidays and everyone has quiet meals indoors – Takeout places triple their business. Restaurants adapt by offering unnamed parallel days of celebration –

‘Come in February 17th with your significant other. Enjoy a quiet, safe meal – our dining room features no unnecessary decorations, and our name has no unfortunate associations in the world’s 32 most common languages!’

yes i want a gotham not crushed by murder and fear where people have adapted and are rarely in too much danger where businesses no longer have themes because theme criminals are so bad for business 

Elf, it got better.

None of the museums will hold any exhibitions featuring statues of birds or cats.

Well, unless wealthy donor Bruce Wayne personally funds one. Somehow he seems to like to fund those exhibits, regardless of the risk. It’s okay, though, because Batman always foils the heists. Penguin winds up back in Blackgate. Catwoman just seems to disappear every time, sneaking off with Batman after the heist is foiled.

I want some villain to kidnap bruce’s boys and torture them and then batman comes in and beats the living shit out of them and then manages to carry all four (4) of them in his arms home (two on his shoulders, two in his arms, all under his cape). I don’t know how it would work but all of them are weak from the torture and bruce is a stronk dad. They all have a full recovery and Bruce is a nurse for a few weeks. I’m all for that angst/fluff bullshit

jerseydevious:

i saw someone once point out that drawing batman extremely buff isn’t particularly good visual storytelling, considering most of what bruce does seems to imply a need for speed and grace and sneakiness, and i was like, yeah, you’re right. you totally have a point, you articulated yourself well, you provided graphics to prove your point, you’ve got a solid thing going here, and i’m going to totally ignore everything you just said. i’m gonna ignore it. i’m gonna pretend i didn’t hear it. 

and the reason i disagreed so vehemently with something that makes perfect sense? i asked myself, hey, is it really batman if his chest can’t hold three babies at once? is it….. is it really batman, if he can’t pluck robin up by the scruff. is it batman if he can’t drag a bleeding superman to safety? i mean, consider the fact that those aren’t vengeance biceps, but support biceps. that’s a whole different order of thing.

I honestly hate Miller’s batman

audreycritter:

jerseydevious:

yeah, it’s not a characterization that’s for everyone. i find it fascinating, like how people find serial killer and supervillain AUs fascinating. 

but i think i might have given the wrong impression, so i’m gonna hop on this and rectify it: TDKR is actually good. TDKR is a full, complete story – it’s got a powerful kind of energy to it, and i legitimately enjoyed reading it. i’ve said this before, but to me, it reads very much like an exacerbation of the darkest subtext in the batmythos, and it’s pretty fun to see people go ham on it and take it to its darkest possible conclusion – but that means most of its relevance is to the reader, not to the character. cribbing character beats from TDKR is a mistake, because that totally misses the point of its extremity. it’s very much your “what if” kind of thing, and what ifs are endlessly fun, when done right. also, carrie kelley’s googles were fire. 

batman: year one, another miller batbook, is also legitimately good. B:YO actually has one of my all-time favorite batquotes in it: “ladies. gentlemen. you have eaten well. you have eaten gotham’s wealth, its spirit. your feast is nearly over. from this moment on…. none of you are safe.” that’s such a good fucking quote

and the fact that these books are actually good is what makes the hilariously outlandish badness of ASBAR and TDKSA look even worse. if you haven’t read them, it’s not even the over-the-top characterization that’s a turn off, it’s the fact that the writing legitimately makes no sense. “i touched my mother’s breast. there was blood on it,” bruce what the fuck do you even mean? “brutal. brutally. it was brutal,” we got the point, ms. vale. and, of course, TDKSA also makes no sense on an artistic level. these were both massive failures, and honestly? they retroactively took the wind out of TDKR’s sails. good job man

I am not a huge fan of Millerverse in general but I do have to admit I hold a small appreciation for the fact that TDKR is SPECIFICALLY about an older Bruce who was wrecked by grief over Jason’s death. He can’t move on, he can’t get over it, 20 years later and he still won’t even let Jim Gordon mention Jason’s name. There are a lot of things I dislike about how Miller writes Batman, but the fact that he treated child death so seriously when other stories just wanted to move on is something I appreciate.