How hot are: Beren, Aegnor, Andreth, Ingwe pre-Valinor, Ingwe 4th age

Beren:

Not My Type | Alright | Cute | Adorable | Pretty | Gorgeous | LORD MERCY

I imagine there’s a sliding scale of full-on hairy bear wildman (too ungroomed for me) to scruffy stubble hotness to Bucky post Winter-Soldier I just want to eat plums in peace tied back my long hair neatly hunk (all within my hell-yes range)

Aegnor:

Not My Type | Alright | Cute | Adorable | Pretty | Gorgeous | LORD MERCY

 Blondes are very hit or miss, usually miss for me, and it depends on how punk his hair is, but I imagine him very attractive

Andreth:

Not My Type | Alright | Cute | Adorable | Pretty | Gorgeous | LORD MERCY

shorter and curvier than an elf maid, gap in her front teeth, very much an Elizabeth Bennet and not a Jane Bennet

Ingwë:

Not My Type | Alright | Cute | Adorable | Pretty | Gorgeous | LORD MERCY

…the difference is that Post-Great Journey Ingwë has mellowed out, so personality wise is better for me, but no lie, a key part of his characterization has to be that he is really really smoking hot. And like, stoic bad-ass trying to protect and enable the women in his family, quiet cat lover…

I’m only rewatching the fights on YouTube bc time but dang Heget it’s gorgeous :’) even if this movie was bad I’d love it for aesthetic, the light is incredible

oh, i have movies i like just for their design, and i admit i judge the MCU films negatively in art nowadays because almost none of their fight choreography even comes close to MoS and BvS – that’s why I watch what little shonen I do, and with MoS, Zack Synder even points out exactly where he copied some animated fights or did the Star Wars camera move homage…

B-b-b-but juliana! you can’t praise MoS for light quality! It’s a dark dour colorless film where everything is just featureless depressing gray that you can’t see clearly and enjoy watching /snark

Zod in that final fight goodlord. his speeches are still unrivaled and way he moved. And even Faora- why do people forget Faora

Another point is that Man of Steel is SO PRETTY…. same for Wonder Woman, though I know it’s a different team + director, but…. dang

IT IS! (and hey, ZS’s team did have input w/ Jenkins’, so they were trying to keep continuity of style – and why JL pisses me off because I can see the change). The full on Renaissance and Baroque painting sensibilities – that’s one of the reasons I also liked Thor, and why Thor: Ragnarok pissed me off because there were rare moments in that film that had the epic look. But yeah, people bitch and say Man of Steel is ugly and colorless and the the MCU films are so much brighter and prettier- and then petty snarky me delights when DCEU fans pull up the screenshot comparisons, because this really is the dominant narrative of critics and general audiences, and then if they do acknowledge the falsehood and admit that the DCEU movies are gorgeous- well then it’s just damning with faint praise and backhanded compliments of ‘oh sure, they can direct visuals, but as a movie they suck.’ *sigh*

Hddfhjjhfhj you made a list of things I liked about man of steel’s fight hahaha

Well, duh, same here. The only MCU films that even come close to my appreciate and love of the first DCEU films is the first Thor movie (which is Shakespearean epic meets chick flick), the first two Captain America films, and some of the Iron Man films and Black Panther … aka the ones that are more like DCEU.

I want to say it was a Mark Hughes article from two or three years back that used this analogy to compare the MCu to DCEU films: Marvel films are Coke soda- very frizzy and sweet and most everyone likes to drink soda with their fast food meals and lunch. But the Zack Synder DCEU films especially are a dark stout- only a small group of drinkers of alcohol drinkers are going to like that type of drink- but they are going to passionately love it and wax about its rich qualities as they take time to drink it. So yeah, I think the metaphor works.

But careful- that means you and I are pretentious twats that have completely missed the point of the superhero movie genre~

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People complain about man of steel’s fights?? :O

…it’s almost utterly inescapable not just in the DCEU part of fandom, but general internet superhero pop culture. The overwhelming majority of articles about the Marvel films -and even non-Marvel, non-superhero- will include at least one line negatively comparing the subject to Man of Steel, BvS, or DCEU in general. It is a clickbait industry. Look at any MCU or DCEU related post or article or Youtube video and it won’t take very long to find the bashing. You will find FAR MORE people asserting that Superman from MoS wasn’t heroic or optimistic or a proper Superman, that he was ‘emo’ and ‘brooding’, that he caused more destruction and didn’t save anyone, that the ending fight was ‘destruction porn’- criticizing the ending might be the only comment you hear about the film, or something tacked on to an otherwise neutral or positive review- and that above all that movie did it wrong- and the MCU/Avengers did it right.

…and really it comes down to tone, because in MoS the music was somber and epic, there wasn’t any one-liner jokes during the fight instead, Zod was always treated as a serious threat -Loki throughout the Avengers, every scene, he was the victim of slapstick comeuppance so he was never actually a frightening villain. Iron Man leads the giant monsters directly through several buildings, but he quips as he does so and the camera quickly cuts away as the buildings start to fall. In MoS you see the fleeing people covered in a far more realistic amount of dust and damage- Avengers you have a few moments where the Avengers try to get the civilians immediately around them to safety- at least off the screen, so that the audience ignores the reality that so much of inhabited Manhattan is being destroyed- and unlike MoS you don’t even have the implication that Metropolis did have prior warning and time to evacuate – hence the empty office buildings that Zod and Superman fly through during their fight. But the Avengers scenes are brightly light with day-time colors, while in MoS there wasn’t the color filters to bright colors- the opposite in fact with the gray dust of a city with destroyed buildings. MoS purposefully used 9/11 imagery to convey the sense of impact such a superhero fight would have. Avengers purposefully used tone and writing and montages of cheering crowds and media coverage to gloss that over and keep the audience from making those connections lest they get upset and ruin the fun. Saturday Matinee Action Movie sensibilities versus Alien Invasion First Contact sensibilities- and Man of Steel was ripped to shreds because it wasn’t that first tone.

Another point the thread brought up was that the Avengers’ fight was eight minutes longer, but the tone and such disguises that.

Has Ravenne met Elu? She has, right?

Yep- the oh wait I haven’t finished and published it- okay that WIP I posted a while back with 85% of the chapter, the opening scene is that Ravennë and her brother stay in the village with the nursing moms and babies and Elwë and Finwë/ Cue Inkundu being an obnoxious shit to Finwë, Elwë swooping in to rescue Finwë and subtlety ignore Inkundu/treat him as someone beneath any notice or respect, and Ravennë think ‘my brother is worthless, these two friends of ‘That Hot Persona Non Grata who is Maybe Worth A Lot of Consideration’ are decent connections.

As Elwë is eldest child of village leaders, he is roughly the same social position as Ravennë, so she’s been aware of him.

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Okay, the Secret Files for Wall the Heart

You might already know this was a spite-motivated tumblr discourse fic, because there was one or two people on my dash who were disowning Thingol as a terrible king and way worse bigot than the Noldor (ie Fëanorians) because of the line about Thingol disliking Beren’s Northern Sindarin accent because Northern Sindar weren’t trusted, the Fëanorians used that accent, etc… This idea of Thingol as a hermit king who did nothing during the entire Silmarilion, just hid in his Girdled Kingdom and let the Noldor do all the fighting, ungrateful, etc… It pissed me off. Enough to take my headcanon and make a fic, and then for my long airing out of grievances and footnote explanations to be so long as to warrant a second chapter. Which I feel even now is a bit extreme and overboard but I won’t shorten it.

Because Goddammit, Elu Thingol and the Sindar of Doriath DID fight Morgoth. They were fighting a long battle before the Noldor ever showed up, and Thingol would still be fighting orcs when they got close to his border even up to the year before Beren stumbled into the Girdle. It’s like Americans saying they did all the fighting and ignoring the French and British and other allies during WWI (or WWII). The Noldor were coming in just after Thingol suffered heavy losses and his remaining allies are in a long siege.

Also, that the Girdle just went up right before the Noldor arrive. It was a recent thing.

Denethor’s death needs more fandom love and attention. You could just as easily do a quasi-slash angsty fic about Thingol trying to reach Denethor in time and then fruitlessly avenging his death in the vein of those Maedhros and Fingon Nirnaeth and aftermath fanworks.

It wasn’t mentioned in this fic, but one of Denethor’s son who died would have been causally intended to be betrothed to Lúthien. The two families were suggesting the idea, and the two of them were friendly if not in love yet. Thus another layer of tragedy.

SF, especially the military SF and space opera stuff, loves the mind controlled double agent trope. I don’t think Vorkosigan ever used it outright, but it’s one of those tropes that both SF and Fantasy love and therefore I wanted to use. And the Silmarilion version from the quotes might just be that Morgoth was so overwhelming powerful that captured elves gave into despair and decided since Morgoth’s victory was inevitable, to pull a Quisling instead of a more magical mind control with the subject unawares. That seems a little more Tolkien. Either way, I left the situation behind Eredhon’s actions purposefully vague as to leave it up for interpretation, and because the mystery worked better for Thingol and the story.

It was very awkward to write this fic before I had a name for Eredhon or his son.

Ducks are a subtle motif for the original village of Elwë and his people.

Sindarin books would not be bond in the same style as books in Valinor, at least until the Noldor arrived, and would use scrolls. The image of Thingol attacking someone with a scroll as an impromptu weapon is funny.

“Yes, Eöl, you were right,” Thingol says testily.

This ↑ was (intended to be) the funniest line in the fic, because of the implication that this would be the only time ever that Thingol (or anyone) would say that line. I like a softer than canon Eöl, and heavens knows I probably turned off a few readers by inserting him into the story, but I like his purpose in this narrative. And adding to the tragedy that this sense that Elmo and Linkwinen, as his grandparents, are the only two elves that make any effort to understand and interact with him, and without them there and faced with the Girdle forcing him to be hemmed in with thousands of people of mutual dislike and setting off more than one case of agoraphobia and PSTD, he decamps to Nan Elmoth, stews in bitterness and mental issues with no one to curtail him, and in a few hundred years there we go~

Galathil and Celeborn are too young in this fic. *pulls face*