In Doriath you can eat a dish that’s exactly like Korean beondegi – aka boiled or steamed pupae of silkworms. Because silk is one of the major textiles of the Sindar in Beleriand, you can’t waste food in the Pre-Moon Dark, and because the culture clash when the Noldor arrive and are introduced to this dish is hilarious.
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@squirrelwrangler I feeeeel you about the debate undercurrent. I see tooooons of engagement on my dash! I don’t interact with all (or even most) of it, but it’s there so….idk, I’ve never really cared for that whole overarching “we’re a community because we all love this book” thing? I DO like finding people who enjoy the same books as me! But I have a hard time if we don’t like them for the same reasons. I think…I like people who enjoy the same THEMES and approach their fandoms in the same way I do more, even if we don’t have a lot of fandom overlap, if that makes sense? My BFF can’t care less about Tolkien or Sailor Moon; he’s into X-Men and Star Trek. But we approach fandom the same way and we like the same themes, so we’re compatible! And it’s why I like reading your DC posts even though I know literally nothing about DC comics, because I feel like our approaches and interests overlap even if the fandoms themselves don’t.
Yes! The wider fandom can be good for memes and jokes and fan art, but I don’t want to interact with a community at whole, just find those likeminded fans. And that it’s what themes and character types that are most important 🙂 it makes it so I can follow mutuals’ fandoms and their meta and such of which I have little or no knowledge, but because the foundation of the enjoyment comes from a similar place. Or find weird theme sharing (Suicide Squad and Naruto)
The DC and DCEU is so funny to me, because yeah, almost all my followers are Tolkien/Silm and yet many can enjoy the dc stuff. And I think there is a serious correlation in underlying themes and tastes but I can’t put my finger on all of them. (Definitely more than MCU) and the fuzziness and openness of canon is a weirdly comforting similiarity.
Haha but hearing about mutual’s fandoms is fun c:
Also I legit just pinpointed why the current debate is getting under my skin. The focus on fanfic as the primary form of engagement is what bothers me the most I think. I don’t read fic because it’s in my fandom; I read it if it looks like it will hit my narrow interests within the fandom. Is that improperly engaging?! It’s such a strange focus to me, to narrow fandom down to fanfic.
Ah yes – I think there is a meta component to the interaction complaint, but yeah – there are fandoms (and sub fandoms) where I don’t want to read fic but meta, or fanart. Some where I just want a fan to agree it’s awesome and that’s it. And Silm I write but don’t read fic, and the fandom focus even ten years ago wasn’t what I cared about.
@squirrelwrangler I feeeeel you about the debate undercurrent. I see tooooons of engagement on my dash! I don’t interact with all (or even most) of it, but it’s there so….idk, I’ve never really cared for that whole overarching “we’re a community because we all love this book” thing? I DO like finding people who enjoy the same books as me! But I have a hard time if we don’t like them for the same reasons. I think…I like people who enjoy the same THEMES and approach their fandoms in the same way I do more, even if we don’t have a lot of fandom overlap, if that makes sense? My BFF can’t care less about Tolkien or Sailor Moon; he’s into X-Men and Star Trek. But we approach fandom the same way and we like the same themes, so we’re compatible! And it’s why I like reading your DC posts even though I know literally nothing about DC comics, because I feel like our approaches and interests overlap even if the fandoms themselves don’t.
Yes! The wider fandom can be good for memes and jokes and fan art, but I don’t want to interact with a community at whole, just find those likeminded fans. And that it’s what themes and character types that are most important 🙂 it makes it so I can follow mutuals’ fandoms and their meta and such of which I have little or no knowledge, but because the foundation of the enjoyment comes from a similar place. Or find weird theme sharing (Suicide Squad and Naruto)
The DC and DCEU is so funny to me, because yeah, almost all my followers are Tolkien/Silm and yet many can enjoy the dc stuff. And I think there is a serious correlation in underlying themes and tastes but I can’t put my finger on all of them. (Definitely more than MCU) and the fuzziness and openness of canon is a weirdly comforting similiarity.
HARD AGREE. back when I did steampunk I wore a lot of grey and ivory and purple (altho not as daring a purple as that smoking jacket). I do like the whole sepia tone thing but it is harder to stand out when everyone else is in the same color scheme
See, that sounds elegant (and that smoking jacket is a purple to sear the eyes but hey, the first time they were able to get some of those colors as clothing dyes, let alone cheap dye, so they were excited about it. God knows I loathe the neon and glow-in-the-dark colors of the 80s and 90s just as much). Everyone shouldn’t be in the bright colors but exactly that if everyone is in the same sepia = old is doing it wrong.
(Also hey, I demand that any Superhero that does a Steampunk AU has zero excuse to not be as bright as Silver/Bronze Age colors)
meeeeeemes. your opinion on neopets!
meeeeme asksssss! [giddy dance]
oh hahha okay confession time- my little sister played neopets causally back in..2002 or so? And I can’t remember if I made an account or or not but I remember she had some of the cute little critters and I know the sand/egyptian play theme had been up for a while and there was paintbrushes she wanted (one of the fairy ones?), but it was expensive, and there was a cheat for free food involving the soup kitchen. I don’t know how long she played it, but I know I only played attention for about a month. I can recognize a lot of the older critters if not by name, and I’m fond of these mostly free-to-play time-wasting virtual pet games, even if nowadays its more NekoAtsume and Pokemon Go (No, i don’t play PokemonGo though said sister and my mom are really into it minus any of the gym/fighting aspect). (Yes I have NekoAtsume on my kindle because I can check it every few days on lunch break and it’s cute without the guilt impulse to be constantly on-the-ball). But all the Neopets’ lore and fan community stuff and everything, I know there’s supposedly a big thing and the website got retooled – but idk *shrug emoji*
Me and MMORPGs and that community gameplay style and forums aren’t really a thing.
THE MOST OVERT
Just for you, the bit of Gadwar’s story that probably won’t be in the finished work:
When he thought no one could hear him, Gadwar’s father would complain how he missed his chance to cross aboard the stolen Swan-ships, and that had that not happened, he and his family would not have had to cross the ice desert. His first wife would have not had the opportunity to decide to disappear into the darkness to die of despair somewhere in the fathomless cold. Gadwar’s older brother had been even younger than Princess Idril during the crossing and had little memory of his mother. Galuven felt no resentment.
Yeah, that was a nice line. Also that sentence structure is a tell of mine; if you start looking for sentences where I go “___ is (at least 3 things)” as a closing or transitioning thought, yeah it’s a tick.
poisons of anxiety, pain, and self-recrimination accumulated in the marrow of his bones.
is lead-in to this metaphor :
Angband was the cruel fossilization of soul, entombing a body in the miserable all-encompassing darkness of its iron mines, slowly eating away flesh and bone, and filling the cavity with a broken slinking creature that cowered in desperation.
because let me talk about the imagery and science of fossilization. It’s not petrifaction. It’s being buried under mud and dirt and that turning into stone locking it in, and then what’s been locked it dissolving and decaying away and the groundwater minerals and such filling in that hollow, replacing what has been shelled out, and that’s a much more involved and accurate metaphor for what I see as Angband’s misery and the orcs.
Also yeah, self-loathing. It’s fun as long as you ignore its existence.
“ a seagull lost in the trees, roosting awkwardly with bats “ I love your turns of phrase.
This was a later-added sentence, sitting on the side of whimsy, but one of my beta readers also loved it.
Re: politics – Here’s where the premise as Theon Greyjoy as an elf comes into play. Looking at this section and the next: this is one where most of the quickly introduced characters are working off parallel characters from ASoIaF. Theon from the books was the third son of the lord of basically evil viking pirate province/sub-kingdom. His father rebels, loses that rebellion and his older two sons, and has his remaining son taken as a “ward” (read: hostage) by the king and sent to live with the lord of the northernmost sub-kingdom/province. Said lord being the first main pov character, a generally honorable bloke, has all the kids that are major characters. Theon is good friends with the eldest of these kids, but knowing that while raised with them, the fact is if his viking dad ever rebelled again, the next morning Theon was getting his head chopped off. There’s a bucket of issues there, and for the first couple books yeah Theon was near the bottom of characters I liked. He was a nasty piece of work, but because of insecurities and arrested development, and nothing builds sympathy like subjecting the character to the worst in the book and have his arc be a slow reclaiming of humanity and identity and helping to rescue another character in a similar wretched state.
This is also why I have a set of tags that state that being a sympathetic fan of Theon’s situation, it makes interpretations of Elros and Elrond’s captivity that try to sugarcoat it personally annoying. Because of quotes like this:
“This is craven,” Ser Rodrick said. “To use a child so… this is despicable.“
“Oh, I know,” said Theon. “It’s a dish I tasted myself, or have you forgotten? I was ten when I was taken from my father’s house, to make certain he would raise no more rebellions.”
“It is not the same!”
Theon’s face was impassive. “The noose I wore was not made of hempen rope, that’s true enough, but I felt it all the same. And it chafed, Ser Rodrick. It chafed me raw.” He had never quite realized that until now, but as the words came spilling out he saw the truth of them.”
So, how to translate this to the Silm? Well, the maritime group was easy to pick. Now to think of a lesser parallel version of the hostage, and I went to Círdan and Finrod’s friendship and their efforts to try and hold peace between groups with an unpaid blood debt. I refuse to believe there wasn’t lingering mistrust, dislike, and resentment of the Noldor among some Sindar, especially those that had to interact with them (when the Noldor pissed off the Taytar Avari from the get-go, c’mon…)
Also, Orodreth as someone who always hated the Fëanorians (unlike Angrod and Aegnor there was no much earlier discarded draft where they were once friends). More interesting if there’s only enmity between them. The idea of Nargothrond over-crowded with refugees it wasn’t prepared for.
Let’s see. The constant ‘should have died with Aglar’ sentences were delineations of this segment of the story, plus repetition ‘i hope the readers get the point’.
Gil-galad’s parentage where I try to give a cute mathematician’s answer.
Overall this wasn’t a chapter with lines I particularly loved, except the beginning paragraphs and the end with the blue light on Aglar’s face. I do like the two parts of this section:
In those solemn months Nargothrond felt like Faron’s old home, like the tense months during the siege when Faron’s mother wept over her dead sons and his father watched the orcs on the other side of the walls. Aglar had begged Faron for guidance to weather the grief of a brother’s death as one who had traveled such a path before. Faron could not explain to his friend that his brothers had been men grown before he was born, hard men with more love for the sea than a new babe in his mother’s arms.
Firs of all, I haven’t written about the siege of Brithomber or think I’ve ever seen fic for it, which is a shame. There should be. it’s be a darker, lesser prelude to Isle of Balar right before the Army of the Valar come.
For the second half, here’s again playing with ASoIaF, because in the book, Theon (after returning home) leads his father’s vikings to raid and capture the northern province stronghold, capturing the youngest brothers of Aglar’s counterpart, Robb, and then fakes their deaths. This ..hurts (understatement) Robb, and is one of the reasons Robb sleeps with and marries Jeyne Westerling, which leads to more problems. So, Bragollach kills several brothers of people in Nargothrond (or in Gelmir’s case, appeared to). Add to it, Aglar has one brother die and cousin thought to (unlike other stories, Silm allows me to bring characters back to life, thus giving me little reservation not to kill them- if elven).
Theon’s brothers were assholes. I couldn’t make elves treat their younger siblings so terribly, so I softened it. Also, any point I can, I like to insert Falmari relatives of Sindarin characters, and said Sindar wondering and resenting and longing for the long-gone family.
I like the flow of the last part of the last sentence. *shrug*
Hey, I adore Belle from the animated Beauty and the Beast because she was a brown-eyed brunette, and like the song Brown-Eyed Girl for the same.
The original arc from ASoIaF is…less than romantic. ….that’s an understatement. Do I ship it romantically and want a happier softer ending? Of course, hence this AU. I’m a sucker for romance and I know my fics reflect that, though it took me a sadly long amount of time to release that I could label this fic a slow-burn romance.
I love commentary, so whenever you can, trust me I’m happy. Plus it’s encouragement to write more.
Thank you, m’dear! Nothing better than reader feedback and this is so eloquent and nice and yessss~ quotes you liked, and doing this for the Epic Fic!
So okay, first things first, I know you haven’t read ASoIaF so that lack of familiarity with the other canon proves this fic works without that knowledge- though I wonder what you make of the chapter title quotes and if parts of the story telegraph ‘we are inspired by another story”.
“ like a tiny star shining unseen above the clouds that blocked all light “ is a BEAUTIFUL line, so poetic.
As should be obvious, it is my homage to Sam’s famous star in Mordor scene. The key difference is that Faron in Angband cannot see any stars, is blocked from the outside world or hope. Morgoth is the not-so-metaphorical cloud placed between light/Valar/etc… Also the reoccurring concept of Faron is going to hear about the rest of Beleriand and what’s going on but never see it, only get either distorted events of have to take it on faith that they’re out there and happening.
I love all the little details about life before the war. I love the name dropping of characters like Gwindor. Yes, they had more connections than just their part in the story. Descriptions are all so vivid, make the setting and characters come alive. So much so that when I looked up and realized sun was streaming through my window in my thoroughly modern office and that I was holding a baby and typing on a computer I was shocked.
My writing’s good enough to immerse the reader, yes. Faelindis is even better at embodying that character that has seen it all, but the draw of this story, I hoped and wish to be, is that it is the narration with a perspective flip of these big events in the Silmarillion and that they aren’t isolated from each other. The events of the Lay of Lúthien tie directly to Children of Húrin, characters interacted with both major players, I expanded the Fall of Gondolin parts because I realized how many more ties I could work into. That Tol Sirion was a community before Sauron came, that the various cities had interactions.
“The Great Enemy had sunk his power into the earth of the Iron Prison, ensnared the souls of all under its shadow, warded it from the freedom of Mandos’s call. “ I love this sentence. Such a way with phrasing, yes. good.
Morgoth’s Ring, Morgoth’s Ring, Morgoth’s Ring. That he’s sunk his spiritual essence into the atoms around him, and that in a trait Fëanor shares with him, cannot stand the idea of anyone else worshiped, loved, or acclaimed as great that isn’t him.
Also, yet again, mortal souls can escape, and elves envy them.
Now to peal back the curtain and admit favorite lines, or just ones I have director’s commentary for, for chapter one:
First, the opening lines:
The princess’s eyes were light and bright as the source of the River Narog, the fair pools of Ivrin for which Lord Gwindor had named her, the green-blue of leaves reflected in clear water. But the eyes of this maiden were brown, dark and deep with fear.
It’s almost the direct quotes from ASoIaF about Jeyne’s brown eyes when Arya has grey, but I got to tie it to Finduilas’s canon nickname. I bring it up again with “
one of the small smooth rocks that lined the pools to make the waters of Ivrin seem all the brighter and clearer.” – Finduilas the pool, Faelindis the plain, supportive, meekly retiring handmaiden/friend who has the steady constancy and willpower of stone.
Faron remembered how his fear, that of a young boy away from home, had turned to wonder upon seeing the doors of Nargothrond for the first time. He had no memories of his body dragged from the battlefield through the iron doors of Angband, only waking in terror as the orcs shackled him and brought out the knives and the whip.
Faron’s first entrance into Nargothrond was a longer segment here, but moved to the next chapter once this story was expanded. Still, I love the juxtaposition of entering these two gates. Also, I had no desire to go into detail about the torture, or bring up moments post-initial interrogation. Just enough to let the reader know it happened, the location and what Faron and others are going through is ‘most hellish place on earth, to a supernaturally bad extent’, without going full out. On which side of that line at any given point the story was, eh, subjective.
The repeated mentions of poetry were me as the author trying to hand-wave the heavy use of metaphors and descriptive language and emphasis on imagery as this story was written with the fact that it’s written from a mostly third-person limited pov where the narrator is a brutalized slave of Angband. Faron speaks with too much poetry. Still, “described himself as a squashed spider
” – I delight in that line.
top 5 anime (I know Kenshin and Princess Tutu are gonna make it but WHO ELSE) actually, let’s change this up a bit – top 5 anime for story and top 5 anime for art
I don’t watch or read manga and anime like I used to, so I have to try and remember. This will prove how dated I am…
First of all, Fullmetal Alchemist (manga or Brotherhood anime) for plot, use of characters, the art having a distinctive good style but that plot was better crafted than most books I read especially in how it used characters and kept them important.
Even if the post-Christmas Bowl arc wasn’t worth reading for me, and the anime version was low-budget bad but charming in its terribleness, Eyeshield 21. Very memorable characters, great moments for a sports anime, likable and endearing and soo very funny, it made me learn and care about football, which twenty years living in the state of Texas could not. Underdog team will lose as often as it wins via miracles. The manga art is phenomenal.
Read CLAMP for the art – for the cover art- not for plot.
Vinland Saga. Art, plot, philosophical musings, historical pretty accurate Viking Age, punch a horse, most incredibly epic and long prologue to an intense farming story ever. (makes sense in context)
Fruits Basket is an anime I enjoy for nostalgia and it’s sweet and funny and cute and underlying darkness without too heavy for what’s basically a reverse-harem anime setup.
Ouran Host Club however is a hilarious spoof on the genre and not bad as live-action.
Cowboy Bebop is the one you’re supposed to rec, but Samurai Champloo is the one I’ve seen all of. Animated fights, the style choice to do the playfully stylistic anachronistic, the story when mysteries revealed.
For the long-runners, I’ve only watched a bit of One Piece, art style isn’t my thing, Naruto when read together has some great moments and every once and a while the anime ups their game. Bleach…Kubo Tite is a great fashion designer, not great and keeping a plot from going kudzu, and the fandom jokes about the anime and manga were the best part.
Trigun. the anime, the overall plot wasn’t perfect, but it made me cry, I loved the four main protagonists, scary villains.
Ghibli Films I love Spirited Away, Kiki’s Delivery Service, and Princess Mononoke.