I can quite appreciate spite as a fic motivator! And can imagine how OII got out of hand now /o there’s so much to go “um no fandom this is not how it has to be let me show you” about. (Tempted to write non-awful Valar fic myself now following certain comments on my last fic on AO3. :/)

That a few Cuiviènen Era fics I found had that strain of ‘elven society was so much purer and progressive pre-Valar contamination’ raised my hackles, and my causal interest in the development of the human species so much so that I didn’t care about the elves developing new words but why on earth was no one spending time talking about them developing the different stone tools hello people that’s fascinating right? No? …years later here I am, writing a ‘good shepherd = good king’ Ingwë scene. 

Sometimes the spite motivation is benignly gentle – the ‘why isn’t there more fics with this canon pairing? here, I’ll do just a paragraph of plot-less fluff and leave the rest to others (the Thingol/Melian fic or Finarfin/Eärwen)’ Then again, a remaining Tol-in-Gaurhoth one-shot is almost uncomfortably spite-motivated and thus stalled on the writing docket.

Write it! write it I know many Valar fans who’d be happy

I’m also delighted to be back in Silm fandom for a bit – let’s hope it lasts a while! And OII is definitely doing a lot! I’m mainly reading for seeing Orome + the Elves and the trip to Aman etc. in fic, but I do love the glimpses of life at Cuivienen and how the early Elves lived. I know what you mean about fics that try to do everything, mind you…

Which is hilarious because when I thought of this fic, my focus was (and still is tbh) a textbook dry setup of what the lifestyle of the earliest of elves were- and then Ingwë post Oromë meeting and roadtrip to Aman having to duke it out with Imin. But having committed to my plot and making that cardinal sin of zooming the narrative down to the actual individual characters instead of the broad overview, well… the readers want that meeting with Oromë, the interactions with Oromë, the trip to Valar, the ‘oh geez I’m going to have to write the meetings with Manwë and Varda help me I can’t do them justice’ panic.

And to think, this was a ‘Look, if you’re going to be jerks about Indis having a name that just means Bride (which, you’re wrong), then here’s why that isn’t demeaning but a praise and appropriation of the awesomeness of Nessa’ plus a ‘Ingwë =/= Imin and btw the Vanyar are both cooler and more kick-ass than all the other elves’ spite fic. Most of my fics can be boiled down to what item of spite motivates them. This one also got the spite of ‘Valar aren’t awful’ and ‘more neolithic and bronze age fantasy, more Gear and less Auel, and I can’t believe I had to resort to Zahn, i’m writing it myself

I identify with this way too much. I try to remind myself that imperfect, archaeologically inaccurate fic is better than no fic and often those are the two options. (And no, I don’t read OII for accurate portrayal of sheep farming! :P)

I’m over the moon, btw, to see you’re back on my dash with an interest in the Silm (And I KNOW that cycle of fandom coming back from nowhere to grab you again). it’s motivation.

OII is such a weird fic, because I don’t know what its strengths as a story are for readers and what aspect I want to focus on at a given time- the big picture anthropology foundation of societies, Ingwë’s inner thoughts, describe the Vala, prequel set up for as many of my other fics as possible~

But that the segment before Ingwë’s is a detailed scene inspired by an artifact in a Time Team episode and the one after that is ‘heget is WAY TOO passionate about the domestication of dogs’, it’s a glaring contrast in having at least a piece of petrified wood to stand on versus free-falling in the bog. 

Ironically- I know for Ingwë’s segment what the correlation to the overarching thematic characterization progress should be- and that’s a general weakness of mine, to actually plot out what a character’s internal character growth should be (I write flat characters. I admit that).

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Could I get you to share any headcanons about Elmo…

Whoops! At some point I’ll stalk your blog for Elmo stuff – thanks for answering anyhow. The Elwing hc broke my heart quite effectively.

It’s just…personally hilarious because I think if I was known for stanning any character in the Silm during the first year I was active in the fandom, it was Elmo.

That Elwing HC is a post…somewhere…and on my list of fics to write

Could I get you to share any headcanons about Elmo the Ever-forgotten? (Or, really, any of the forgotten members in his line: Galadhon, Galathil, unnamed wives…)

…okay, don’t take this the wrong way, but: how new are you to my blog?

*cackles*

the cheap thing to do would be to just link my two tags “elmo the elf” and “favorite minor elf y’all”. I did a vocal meme reply for Elmo that I had to break into three parts.

How much time do you have?

Cliff notes versions for those that don’t have at least twenty minutes:

Elmo is the youngest of the three brothers princely, of the first generation born in Cuiviénen – that is born, not Unbegotten. The Nelyar started branching into separate village groups- and some were constantly travelling around the woods like Lenwë’s group, or lived in dugout canoes and rafts on the Great Lake itself. But the parents of Elwë, Olwë, and Elmo were leaders of a Nelyar offshoot that settled their particular small village on the banks of a very small stream that was a marshy reed-bed into the the shore, instead of the larger river with waterfall of the first Nelyar village (Enel and Enelyë). The main advantage of this location, aside from gentle quiet water supply and good harvest of reeds (edible and manufacturing) and waterfowl (Ducks are an important motif for Elmo and his wife) is that the village is roughly centered between the lone Minyar village and the second Tatyar village (Rúmilo and the other dissidents from Tata). Especially thanks to Elwë, Elmo grows up used to the other two tribes. (Lenwë’s roamers interact with everyone too). Now even before going to Valinor, Elwë is ridiculously tall. Olwë is average tall for the Lindar, and Elmo…he’s on the short side and at first seems to be a little stockier than his brothers- but it’s Olwë that thickens in middle-age to be the barrel-chest and slight pudgy while Elmo grows into a boniness (that might just be the wandering Middle-earth as an Eglath). Olwë has whitest hair, Elwë is mid silver, Elmo is that very dark silver that still has a shine and lightness so you wouldn’t mistake it for black. Charcoal gray. Galadhon has a more pewter shade, and his sons are even lighter. Now Elmo’s wife- a childhood friend slightly older- is Linkwinen. Her older brother, Eredhon, was a loyal follower of the brothers. Right before Elwë leaves for Valinor that first time, post War, Elmo and Linkwinen are expecting their first child, who is born before Elwë gets back. She’s Ilsë, named because she shares her uncle’s hair and in honor of him. This is a theme, because Olwë later names his son born in Tol Eressea or Alqualondë after Elwë in remembrance of that brother (which causes angst with Elwing because she hears that Eluren is reborn and thinks she gets to meet her big brother and instead gets an uncle that had been killed in the First Kinslaying). Elmo’s second child is Egnith (darkest silver hair), a daughter born during the Great Journey, who marries “Bao” (possibly Tatyar). Egnith is Eöl’s mother. Now Elmo was the youngest, very focused on his growing family during the Great Journey (and the crying babies are why Unc’Elu is making so many visits to Finwë to escape the family chaos, leading to his Nan Elmoth unplanned side visit), so he wasn’t sharing the leadership duties like Olwë was. But when Elwë goes missing, Elmo is the leader of the faction that wants to stay and search. And he and Olwë is viciously nasty to each other on what Elu would have wanted/you’re using his name as an excuse, so on and so forth the Finwions have nothing on this brotherly fight divide. Ilsë goes with Olwë (becomes Admiral of their fleet, has a wife, still bitterly angry at dead relatives by War of Wrath). Egnith and Bao get captured by Sauron and turned into proto orcs, Eöl is rescued by dwarves and has trauma, during the time the Eglath are hunting for Elu. Elu adn Melian found, Elmo rejoices! Eredhon and sons are leaders in charge of Mithrim/Northern Sindar. Elmo lives w/ Elu and family. When Denethor’s people come into Beleriand, Elmo and Linkwinen set their son Galadhon up with Denethor’s sister. Thus Galathil and Celeborn are the nephews of Denethor and technically closest remaining Nandor royalty. Thus why Galathil and Nimloth stay with the Green Elves. Galathil marries a female relative of Oropher. When Dior and Nimloth rule, Oropher is excited for the court prestige he can wield.Thus another undercurrent to that Celeborn-Thranduil tension. Nimloth died beside Dior (her weapon is knives). Galathil is killed because he was trying to protect and escape with his grandsons.

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I forget how inane and common it is, but I tried…

*is guilty of complaining about DC’s color use* Sorry. Especially since it’s flooding the movie’s tags. You should get to enjoy that without the snide comments.

It’s just- SOOO F*CKING COMMON. Articles and podcasts about Star Trek, or other non-related fandoms or movies, let alone other DC properties have to bring that complaint or ones similar. I forget how common it is, that it’s the thing to do, and then I actually read anything entertainment-related online. And it’s exactly like the prequel bashing from the 2000s. I can’t follow anything Superman because god forbid there’s this version that isn’t some mythic nostalgia version from the late 70s movies or 90s comic that they say they want (and then contract themselves on what makes a good Superman).

I would listen to a podcast reviewing the John Byrne era Superman comics, and be baffled that the hosts were praising what the storytellers were doing – for almost the same damn things MoS was bashed for.

They’ve forever tainted the John Williams Superman theme for me, btw. I hate it.

But dare MoS exists, this one that was filmed specifically with the styling of a documentary, to lack artificially adjusting the skin-tones,

often the scenes are shot so that there is focus on one intense color (usually a red cape or the orange sunset of a dying Krypton, any time with the green kryptonite). Which is just not allowed to be the visual style for an action comedy – and the reviews for Teen Titans Go and Lego Batman made it clear that only satires are acceptable DC films anyway. Where were the people bitching about the color in the Deadpool movies? (Which, I laughed at them, but there’s a teenage frat boy’s humor, a snarkiness, that I completely understand why people wouldn’t like them for good reason. The spoofing of the genre that I also liked in the first GotG – but also the first GotG had moments of earnest heart whereas watching GotG2 was the most unfunny and non-enjoyable movie theater experience that I’ve ever had, even if the film was brightly saturated. Just, wow, I can’t remember paying for a ticket for a movie that I hated watching that much. Not even Ultron was that bad).

 I remember great lines from MCU films, but the only movie of the twenty that I will regularly think back and go “the images were beautiful and memorable to look at” is the first Thor. Okay, and the Thor movie is the only other one that I regularly remember the themes and musical motifs. I definitely have my tastes. Look, I’ve accepted that Thor is my Wonder Woman, the one that I’ll go “well the rest of the films aren’t good, but we can agree this one was good”. Well, except the general consensus nowadays is that only Ragnarok was good.

And I’m going to be petty and finally type my feelings on this: the Airport scene in Civil War (and most of that movie, c’mon people) is really ugly. Like, I can’t look at it without thinking of how godawful it looks. There’s only middle tones, and grayed, washed out ones at that, because they filmed digital and didn’t color grade, and it is a ugly gray movie, but hey, billion dollars profit and daylight scenes and constant quips and undercutting stakes with a wink and nod at the audience these are escapism films to snark with and therefore ‘more colorful’.

…sorry. it’s past midnight, I have no filter on the rant that simmers under my skin for months now (and I could point at Justice League and every single Whedon reshot scene where I could see the quality in both writing and cinematography dip – but the bloggers got the changes that they were demanding, including Elfman’s score, hooray), and I swear, if it wasn’t bashing BvS, it was complaints about how dare the Death of Superman movie rush to reestablish the Superman/Lois relationship. Like, wow, that was a mistake to go into that tag. Amazing, the Venn Diagram one could make between people who disliked Lois Lane and the DCEU films… 

Sorry, this is a rant properly aimed at the void.

I also listen to a lot of video game soundtracks (and instrumental covers of them!). There’s also … hm, like pseudo-soundtracks? Audiomachine, instrumental tracks of Two Steps From Hell, Future World Music, Epic Score, Matias Puumala. Oh, and I like some Jennifer Thomas and Elijah Bassenbroek for more soothing background music.

My Problem with Audiomachine and Two Steps from Hell is that i listen to them regularly, so they are the ‘formulation of fic scenes and ideas’, not the innocuous background sounds to keep me from loosing focus while I write’ music :p

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I’m not familiar with watership down, but i heard it’s super sad? The movie is NOTHING like regular dog movies though dsbuhddhbn but if you don’t like Wes Anderson I don’t feel like I should encourage you, it’s pretty much his trademark writing/directing/aesthetic/dialogue/etc, so… :/

Yeah, it’s one of those very distinctive directors, and I feel like I should like him, but I don’t. I don’t dislike him.

Watership Down is good, movie and especially book, but has a few sad moments. more it’s just that style of fiction quasi-started with Black Beauty of animal viewpoint, and has a great fictional rabbit culture (like, i bet the venn diagram of tolkien fans and watership down fans is close) But…not a little kids’ movie. and Plague Dogs is, so I’ve heard, Grave of the Fireflies levels of audience emotional evisceration.

I thought you liked hotel budapest tho buhdnjds idk why?? I must have dreamed you reblogged something about it or something hahaha

I don’t think I have. Maybe liked a gif set because I love movies that have a  strong stylized use of color.

hehehehe sorry to ask you such a difficult question <3 I also asked Becca the same, just to compare our answers!

Nah, it’s fine- it was actually pretty easy for me to answer with a few seconds of thought. I just in general have a hard time with ranking questions, because I overthink and want to be 100% honest and fair and get guilty about picking a favorite even if fictional (like, that has to be a psychological thing with being not an only child and hammering home the ‘parents don’t have favorite children and it’s terrible to seriously suggest that mom or dad do and even if one did, don’t show it’)

I like video game soundtracks when I write, especially those 30 Min repeats of a theme. Legend of Zelda stuff from Wind Waker is whimsical and upbeat, or Hyrule Warriors for a more modern, “angrier” theme. Captain Toad is cute and whimsical too. Little King’s Story has remixes of classical music, mostly Mozart iirc.

Yep! Skyrim and other sandbox games where it’s just the exploration themes are great- and because I didn’t/don’t play video games except a lot of Sims and Final Fantasy, i don’t have memories attached to the soundtracks to distract me.  Which is why I don’t usually pick movie scores.

Oh, Mozart! fun!