aw i had a huge smile on my face reading the water lovin posts . one of my fantasies is that i don’t have to breath so i can dive and be surrounded by water for as long as i want đŸŒŠđŸŒŠđŸŒŠ

It’s a weird thing because I love the ocean at a distance, tbh – but that distance is not all that great. When both of your parents were officers in the navy, but neither in very nautical-like positions or roles, when the literature and heroic figures and poetry were more often than not that of sailors and the sea – if you ask me to name a poem, the first I will think of is the Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner, even if I don’t have lines memorized, yet still it is my prototypical platonic ideal of ‘concept of poetry’, when you never went fishing or played on the beach or swan in the ocean as a child, but that “seagull to pigeon ratio” and you know what the ocean smells like more than what a forest smells like, that yeah, the most terrifying place on earth is going to be the deep sea- and yet the most beautiful- that it isn’t ‘a great wave as tall and terrible as a mountain’, oh no- it’s that the mountains themselves are frozen waves sculpted in stone.

That I love the Edain, but it boggles my mind that Tuor would be the first of any of them to see the ocean, and thus I fell in love with him in those first read-throughs because he fell in love with that sea. 

Also- no breathing removes only some sea terror, but is does sound like a fun thing to do. Also- anon, are you Tuor? 

no, he did not, as far I know it was finally dated only recently (I mean they’ve found out it could still exist in early Neolithic))

Yeah, that the carbon dating wasn’t until much later, and that hey, surprise HG Wells, it wasn’t fifty thousand years ago that England and France were connected but only somewhere around eight to ten thousand years ago, maybe less. But at this point I fully expect a Tolkien letter pointing out the Doggerland/Beleriand connection

I’m only rewatching the fights on YouTube bc time but dang Heget it’s gorgeous :’) even if this movie was bad I’d love it for aesthetic, the light is incredible

oh, i have movies i like just for their design, and i admit i judge the MCU films negatively in art nowadays because almost none of their fight choreography even comes close to MoS and BvS – that’s why I watch what little shonen I do, and with MoS, Zack Synder even points out exactly where he copied some animated fights or did the Star Wars camera move homage…

B-b-b-but juliana! you can’t praise MoS for light quality! It’s a dark dour colorless film where everything is just featureless depressing gray that you can’t see clearly and enjoy watching /snark

Zod in that final fight goodlord. his speeches are still unrivaled and way he moved. And even Faora- why do people forget Faora

Another point is that Man of Steel is SO PRETTY…. same for Wonder Woman, though I know it’s a different team + director, but…. dang

IT IS! (and hey, ZS’s team did have input w/ Jenkins’, so they were trying to keep continuity of style – and why JL pisses me off because I can see the change). The full on Renaissance and Baroque painting sensibilities – that’s one of the reasons I also liked Thor, and why Thor: Ragnarok pissed me off because there were rare moments in that film that had the epic look. But yeah, people bitch and say Man of Steel is ugly and colorless and the the MCU films are so much brighter and prettier- and then petty snarky me delights when DCEU fans pull up the screenshot comparisons, because this really is the dominant narrative of critics and general audiences, and then if they do acknowledge the falsehood and admit that the DCEU movies are gorgeous- well then it’s just damning with faint praise and backhanded compliments of ‘oh sure, they can direct visuals, but as a movie they suck.’ *sigh*

Hddfhjjhfhj you made a list of things I liked about man of steel’s fight hahaha

Well, duh, same here. The only MCU films that even come close to my appreciate and love of the first DCEU films is the first Thor movie (which is Shakespearean epic meets chick flick), the first two Captain America films, and some of the Iron Man films and Black Panther … aka the ones that are more like DCEU.

I want to say it was a Mark Hughes article from two or three years back that used this analogy to compare the MCu to DCEU films: Marvel films are Coke soda- very frizzy and sweet and most everyone likes to drink soda with their fast food meals and lunch. But the Zack Synder DCEU films especially are a dark stout- only a small group of drinkers of alcohol drinkers are going to like that type of drink- but they are going to passionately love it and wax about its rich qualities as they take time to drink it. So yeah, I think the metaphor works.

But careful- that means you and I are pretentious twats that have completely missed the point of the superhero movie genre~

cue the cancel the DC and on your left memes

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People complain about man of steel’s fights?? :O

…it’s almost utterly inescapable not just in the DCEU part of fandom, but general internet superhero pop culture. The overwhelming majority of articles about the Marvel films -and even non-Marvel, non-superhero- will include at least one line negatively comparing the subject to Man of Steel, BvS, or DCEU in general. It is a clickbait industry. Look at any MCU or DCEU related post or article or Youtube video and it won’t take very long to find the bashing. You will find FAR MORE people asserting that Superman from MoS wasn’t heroic or optimistic or a proper Superman, that he was ‘emo’ and ‘brooding’, that he caused more destruction and didn’t save anyone, that the ending fight was ‘destruction porn’- criticizing the ending might be the only comment you hear about the film, or something tacked on to an otherwise neutral or positive review- and that above all that movie did it wrong- and the MCU/Avengers did it right.

…and really it comes down to tone, because in MoS the music was somber and epic, there wasn’t any one-liner jokes during the fight instead, Zod was always treated as a serious threat -Loki throughout the Avengers, every scene, he was the victim of slapstick comeuppance so he was never actually a frightening villain. Iron Man leads the giant monsters directly through several buildings, but he quips as he does so and the camera quickly cuts away as the buildings start to fall. In MoS you see the fleeing people covered in a far more realistic amount of dust and damage- Avengers you have a few moments where the Avengers try to get the civilians immediately around them to safety- at least off the screen, so that the audience ignores the reality that so much of inhabited Manhattan is being destroyed- and unlike MoS you don’t even have the implication that Metropolis did have prior warning and time to evacuate – hence the empty office buildings that Zod and Superman fly through during their fight. But the Avengers scenes are brightly light with day-time colors, while in MoS there wasn’t the color filters to bright colors- the opposite in fact with the gray dust of a city with destroyed buildings. MoS purposefully used 9/11 imagery to convey the sense of impact such a superhero fight would have. Avengers purposefully used tone and writing and montages of cheering crowds and media coverage to gloss that over and keep the audience from making those connections lest they get upset and ruin the fun. Saturday Matinee Action Movie sensibilities versus Alien Invasion First Contact sensibilities- and Man of Steel was ripped to shreds because it wasn’t that first tone.

Another point the thread brought up was that the Avengers’ fight was eight minutes longer, but the tone and such disguises that.

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It’s the worst. Ive been putting off uploading some fics just because I dread this phase. try to post when I know I’ll be out of the house shortly after, but even then I keep checking on my phone.

Yep! I’ll be honest- that I knew I would be stuck without/ internet access for a few hours this weekend because of dress rehearsals and performances for Giselle, that was the final prod of motivation to finish and post the OII chapter.