Oh of course, now I see. Background thematic similarities, not personality-wise. >< Derp
Oh, certainly not personalities- unless we compare Neville’s self-confidence issues due to over-pressure and gradual development into resistance leader who tells off Voldemort (and yet what is that but if a continuation of the boy awarded five points for standing up to his friends out of concern?) and Ivan’s ironclast loyalty to Miles, while bickering all the way, and his cover of ‘the disappointingly under-performing young family screw-up’ as to never be placed ahead of his two best friends/cousins in a position of power?
of harry’s inner circle ivan has a little bit of ron. and the twins. idk, have to think if there is a good parallel
I disagree about Miles/Ivan Harry/Neville. I don’t think there’s a good comparison, from HP to Vorkosigan Saga.
Oh, the Ivan as Neville thing was only my vague thoughts on how Ivan as a grandson of Prince Xav’s sister, like Miles is, has the same ‘if the right small number of people died he could have been Chosen One/Gregor’s baby foster brother and second-in-line-to-throne’ and that Alys’s here’s where your father died before you were born, noble sad sacrificed in the war, live up (or down) to the expectations and the rest of your relatives are old disapproving cousins like Falco vaguely (only vaguely) made me think of Neville’s Grandma and Longbottom fam. (Lady Vorpatril may be formidable, but she’s certainly no Augusta)
YOUR FAVORITE SECONDARY CHARACTER IS ONE OF MINE AS WELL, WHAT AN A+ BOSS, HOW WONDERFUL HE IS. also yaaaay memory. FISHING hehe
Oh yes, my hill-country roots loved the fishing (especially with the class-tinged discussion of how one should do it)
spoiler under cut for juliana
OMG Duv~ Duv ♥ At first in BiA when he’s introduced as stiff boss having to deal with Miles and his crazy, i was mildly sympathetic, as one should be for those bystanders too close to the tornado that is Naismith. But then everything with Sir Galen and Duv (and idk if it was intentional that I got a Northern Ireland feel to him and his dad and a lot of the Komarr – who I also keep wondering why they all don’t have Dutch names)- and then comes Memory and my poor ambitious and loyal and good friend and righteously angry Duv.
My favorite line in the whole series is his indignation over Vorkosigan House’s attic full of stuff that should be in museums!
I want to read it! (I love Angband and general evilness, and I’m a massive history geek so yay historical accuracy!)
Thank you! Some days I need just one person’s encouragement, ya’know.
IDK if said fic would give what you’re looking for. I’ve posted parts of the draft under the tag Squidboy in Angband, but unlike my Ingwë of Cuiviénen fic, which was/is an excuse to work in as many odd facts and ideas about Paleolithic life (and some pre-Late-Triassic bits because of the abominable missing angiosperms) and world-building backstory, this one is just a crossover fusion. The main characters are two slaves in Angband, and the story, aside from flashback summaries, goes from the girl’s capture to their escape on the last day of the War of Wrath. Some orcs, some minor Maiar underlings, no onscreen Sauron or Morgoth (Ancalagon – or at least his fall, cameos as well). The crossover comes from a rather triggering arc from A Song of Ice and Fire, so I’ve been pushing myself to go darker and add more evilness 😉 Not sure how good a job I’m doing- haven’t nearly stressed the psychological horror aspects – and I need to commit to the question of orcs and where they come from. The brainwashed souls of captured and killed elves stuck in constructed Frankenstein-monster/lab vat grown bodies is my maybe explanation for the creation of orcs, so to include that idea or only dance around and hint at it without excluding any other theories…*shrug* And I don’t like to discard too much of LaCE, so crossing out a lot of sexual violence or the threat of it (nor do I feel the desire to write that in Silm fic, except for the implicit threat in the one Bór fic).
What they fed the Angband slaves is another point I worry over. Borrowing the orc-drink from LotR and Mîn’s earth-bread (cave tubers), but also going with mushrooms (and that the elves don’t particularly like them, because my sense of humor is bad). And I blame Wheel of Time and its Trollocs more than the movie for associating cannibalism and the worry of it to orc stew-pots.
So right now it’s just mentions of the practice of fire-setting to crack the stone (and how dangerous that is to do in underground mines, which is why it isn’t usually done, but was in Roman Britain mines) and the water wheels and bloom furnaces. – And I’m especially annoyed that someone stole my copy of The Silver Pigs, as the first Falco novel has a lot about similar mines.
My NOTP for them – any incest ship. he’s very obscure, so I don’t see any pairings for him, objectionable or otherwise. hmm, the standard NOTP: Any Fëanorian or other kinslayer
My BROTP for them – his big brothers definitely. Eredhon, that bundle of nerves that is Linkwînen’s brother. Oropher
My OTP for them – my OC Linkwînen
My second choice pairing for them – another OC to describe the textual ghost of his canon wife
My fluffy pairing for them – reed-girl Linkwînen
My angsty pairing for them – aside from the mandatory repeat answer, Elu’s angsty thoughts about his dead brother is still may favorite of my short, quickly-written fics.
My favorite poly ship for them – ….. ┐(‘～`)┌
My weirdest pairing for them – I want him to meet Elmo Tully now and have a fun time carousing around forested woodlands partying like only backstory-only distant ancestors of important canon characters who share a name with an annoying red muppet can (it’s an exclusive club).
My NOTP for them – him/Curufin (peels skin off my face with my fingernails)
My BROTP for them – It’s Finrod, so like canon for EVERYBODY. But in particular and no particular order: Beren, Bëor, Andreth, Turgon, Haleth, Galadriel, the dwarves of Norgord and Belegost, the ten companions, the extended Edain populations of Beleriand, Olwë and all his Falmari cousins, Thingol, ….
My OTP for them – him/Amarië
My second choice pairing for them – oh dear… my other choices are all platonic
My fluffy pairing for them – young Finrod and Amarië hanging out as sweet dorks in Valmar, he’s the omnidisciplinary student questioning her about everything from color theory to how to milk a cow and she can’t believe (or care) that he’s a prince
My angsty pairing for them – Amarië okay most of his friendships and deep emotional bonds with mortal men and dwarves is angsty by default
My favorite poly ship for them – I can see the appeal of a poly ship with him and Beren and Lúthien
My weirdest pairing for them – brainstorm just now – I wonder what his relationship with Aredhel was? Oddly, I think I could see it work, if she was interested in any of her cousins
my friend please let’s agree on a spoiler tag, this wasn’t one (didn’t seem like one) but my heart jumped for a moment omg… (otoh GLAD TO KNOW THERE WILL BE MORE CORDELIA SCENES)
I made that post and then thought “shit, spoiler”. My mom’s reading the series too, except only up to Cetaganda and there’s a conclave of major spoilers starting with the next book after that (and the library had Mirror Dance, which is two books after, so I’m trying hard to hide the first huge plot twist)
But yes- the fandom, little that it is, all agrees on ‘MORE CORDELIA’, and we do get some.
(and when this runs out, i go re-read Codex Alera because the author of that series admitted to writing in a pair of Cordelia and Aral expies)
I had to read Finduilas three times before I realized it wasn’t my Minas Tirith!
I decided to be purposefully obfuscating about that. Don’t ask me why. In fact I decided only the dragon would be the point where I explicitly clarified which Minas Tirith and Finduilas this was. There was no point to it.
I wondered if I needed to add more to Faelindis’s second segment. (the reason there isn’t a second for finduilas or gwenniel is obvious)
A 14-year-old human girl who happened to meet Luthien and Beren when they were living in Ossiriand and fangirled hard at them. (LOL)
or twenty-something human male? ;p
But really, you’d think like with Dírhavel if the author had been mortal it would have been recorded. And the Lay is this huge cultural thing to the elves, the story that means so much to them.
Like, if you told me the Westron translation is the work of a younger Elrond, I’d believe that 100%.
But Tolkien has to have left some note on who he was pretending wrote the Lay of Leithian. Who is Elf Homer? (okay, Dírhavel is clearly a Homer character)
…It wasn’t Daeron? For some reason, I always assumed it was.
Nah, Daeron disappears long before Carcharoth escapes and bypasses the Girdle into Doriath, never to be seen again.
He’s popular to pop up in Third Age fics as the rediscovered or not wandering minstrel (nowhere near as popular as Maglor), but aside from one or two fics I’ve seen preporting Daeron as the author, which never made much sense to me except he’s the most eminent bard and was a character in a few of those events, I don’t think I’ve seen any authorship for the Lay. It feels like something written at least a little after said events, if not centuries later. If it weren’t for its status as THE elven ballad, I’d almost attribute it to a Númenórean. But then we know in-universe there were tales of Beren’s deeds back when he was an outlaw in Dorthonion, and the excitement spreading throughout Beleriand of Beren and Lúthien’s victory is what revs up the Union of Maedhros to the Nirnaeth. So I don’t know when it was formally composed, and that bugs me.
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