Also have in common are both homebodies reluctant to leave safe and familiar places, and a strong filial piety.
Also, Finrod is the best choice if one must date a Noldor elf.
😉
Ah! So what do you head-canon Amarië as far as her personal creative expressions?
Also, Finrod is the best choice if one must date a Noldor elf.
Indeed! 🙂
I headcanon Amarië being gifted in embroidery. She makes very beautiful designs and has a special eye for using the most gorgeous color combinations, some that other elves may not consider at first. The products she creates are things that can be used at home: table clothes and curtains and rugs and so on. She is usually consulted on home decor, especially on which colors or objects would go best for this or that home. 🙂
Home decorator Amarië! I love it, and want to adopt it!
Oo, the Vanyar have more words for colors than other elven dialects (based off Valarin), so it totally makes sense for Amarië to have a heightened sense of colors.
Ah~ imagining her redecorating Finrod’s apartments (and all the other re-embodied elves returning to Tirion), helping them rework their surroundings as this form of therapy to help them redefine their personal spaces, incorporate new elements of design from Beleriand be it based on the different flora/fauna or new light -or oh, she would definitely get Finrod to help her understand the basics of dwarven aesthetics and set up a trade connection back to Middle-earth and Khazad-dûm to import dwarven textiles and metalwork, etc… I can see her asking Finrod to proofread her runes in her letters to them so she’s using the correct polite address and what’s considered appropriate trades and what motifs/patterns are okay for outsiders to use…
Especially where I head-canon Valinor during the beginning of the Second Age as starting to shift from a “vaguely Tudor” look to “Regency/1790-1830” look, now I’m picturing those moments in Austen’s novels where they talk about designing and decorating rooms, “paint tables, cover skreens and net purses” – Amarië exemplifies very accomplished 😉
And I like the idea of an embroiderer that isn’t focused on clothing or just tapestries, for function objects. Which ties into my idea that the Vanyar love bright colors for their surroundings, for their houses and gardens and some parts of their furnishings, whereas the Noldor are more focused on colors and gems for their personal selves, clothing and jewelry. (Somewhere I will re-find that quote on the Vanyar wearing only white clothing, because it haunts and vexes me)
Yes! I would love to see this headcanon adopted! 🙂 May I borrow some of these headcanon as well? I love thinking of dwarven and Vanyarin designs fusing into something beautiful for Khazad-dûm.
Aw, thank you!
Oh I hadn’t even thought of the cultural exchange both ways – but duh, Khazad-dûm was still expanding and changing well into the Third Age and just because it’s the cultural heart of the dwarves doesn’t exclude other design origins. (Ugh, between Khazad-dûm and Menegroth, and Númenor, so many lost homelands, this is probably why I just cannot head-canon Cuiviénen as surviving and Avari still living there. Eden is barred and all that.) And to be honest, I try to rein myself in because I love the Vanyar a lot, and I have this bad habit of wanting to combine these cultures and people I love – I have more Vanyar/Falmari marriages and team-ups than canon likely allows, and via my OC for Elros’s wife, Númenor at least the early years is heavily influenced by Bór and Vanyar culture (hey, there has to be a better reason for all that Quenya).
Oh, but if there’s a big Edain craze in Valinor during the Second Age, then there totally has to be interest among the Amanyar elves, especially the Noldor that stayed, towards the Dwarves, considering a great majority would have been Aulendil like Mahtan. So there would be this desire among the smiths and devotees of Aulë to appreciate and see the works of Aulë’s Children, and I can imagine everyone there being very jealous of Celebrimbor.
But now all I can think is of Nargothrond, of how Finrod was inspired by Menegroth to design his city but with his own spin, like expand the types of trees the columns are based on, and how he was aided by the dwarves of the Blue Mountains so the city was probably this synchronization of Noldor/Dwarven/Sindar architecture. So now this renovation team of Finrod and Amarië, spending their post-Silmarillion time restoring and reworking all the vacant houses in Tirion and the new settlements in Valinor and Tol Eressëa. And it would be sometime they are both very passionate about and also helps them come back together as a couple.
Also have in common are both homebodies reluctant to leave safe and familiar places, and a strong filial piety.
Also, Finrod is the best choice if one must date a Noldor elf.
😉
Ah! So what do you head-canon Amarië as far as her personal creative expressions?
Also, Finrod is the best choice if one must date a Noldor elf.
Indeed! 🙂
I headcanon Amarië being gifted in embroidery. She makes very beautiful designs and has a special eye for using the most gorgeous color combinations, some that other elves may not consider at first. The products she creates are things that can be used at home: table clothes and curtains and rugs and so on. She is usually consulted on home decor, especially on which colors or objects would go best for this or that home. 🙂
Home decorator Amarië! I love it, and want to adopt it!
Oo, the Vanyar have more words for colors than other elven dialects (based off Valarin), so it totally makes sense for Amarië to have a heightened sense of colors.
Ah~ imagining her redecorating Finrod’s apartments (and all the other re-embodied elves returning to Tirion), helping them rework their surroundings as this form of therapy to help them redefine their personal spaces, incorporate new elements of design from Beleriand be it based on the different flora/fauna or new light -or oh, she would definitely get Finrod to help her understand the basics of dwarven aesthetics and set up a trade connection back to Middle-earth and Khazad-dûm to import dwarven textiles and metalwork, etc… I can see her asking Finrod to proofread her runes in her letters to them so she’s using the correct polite address and what’s considered appropriate trades and what motifs/patterns are okay for outsiders to use…
Especially where I head-canon Valinor during the beginning of the Second Age as starting to shift from a “vaguely Tudor” look to “Regency/1790-1830” look, now I’m picturing those moments in Austen’s novels where they talk about designing and decorating rooms, “paint tables, cover skreens and net purses” – Amarië exemplifies very accomplished 😉
And I like the idea of an embroiderer that isn’t focused on clothing or just tapestries, for function objects. Which ties into my idea that the Vanyar love bright colors for their surroundings, for their houses and gardens and some parts of their furnishings, whereas the Noldor are more focused on colors and gems for their personal selves, clothing and jewelry. (Somewhere I will re-find that quote on the Vanyar wearing only white clothing, because it haunts and vexes me)
Sansa is definitely a judge, the third one who always leaves a kind review like “I really liked the taste” even if it looks like unimpressive *__*
She would~ (find the beauty in everything) ♥
Now I’m imagining Iron Chef Westeros! With each Iron Chef representing the culinary traditions of a different kingdom of Westeros (you do not challenge Chef Iron Islands on anything sushi). Sansa as the bubbly celebrity female guest. I can’t decide if Oberyn would be a judge, a really flamboyant chef that uses dangerous materials and trash-talks the other chefs, or if he is the Chairman Host. Who is the Chairman?
So I saw this post by heget, which made me think about how the number 14 might fit into my headcanon about the early Vanyar and what it might represent to them (14 original elders or something?) when I realised I’d overlooked the obvious. There are 14 Valar. No wonder the Vanyar are attached to the number, it’s probably considered perfect. I’m now convinced that somewhere, there’s a crazy Vanya with 14 kids and they’re all named after the Valar. (I don’t care what Tolkien says about the Feanorians being the largest family, maybe they’re just the biggest in the Noldor.)
Because that myth was suggesting that 12 is the significant number for elves, that they count via base 12 and 144 as 12×12 is holy and works as the ‘many many’ number.
But then you get the Valar who are 14 (which, ok, do we think 13 is the unlucky number for the same one beyond a dozen or 15 with its association with Melkor?). And therefore I can see a little of an in-universe reason for a sacred/significant number 7.
But then the number of Aratar or lords of the Valar in the Ring of Doom is 8. And the heraldry and point system of princes and kings is built around multiples of 4 (8 is a king, 4 a prince, high king a 16….)
But I want 14 to be the holy number and the number used for elven zodiac (because you KNOW they have it and it’s based off Varda’s stars and the Valar) instead of 12, but then there are 12 months…
But your OC family sounds like a ton of fun and I want to hear more (and reminds me of that one family in Discworld we hear about in the Witches books that named their daughters after virtues and sons after vices and they grew up to have ironic traits or jobs)
Well that and I ended up hating every single character and faction. Except Mat whom I thought the author hated. 🙂
Ah yes, that would do it 😀
I (and others) always got the vibe that Matt was one of the author’s favorite. (still sad that we’ll never get the Matt and Tuon’s Adventures Back to Seanchan spinoff sequel novel)
I stopped reading the series after winters heart I waited years for some plot development to happen by the time it did I just didn’t care.
Completely understandable 🙂
When I first read the series, my mom had up through Path of Daggers in paperback (and I thought it was a completed series), so I plowed through them in about ten days (reading through the night, on the bus, during lunch, etc…) Winter’s Heart was the first I had to wait for, so there was the excitement there of buying the hardback. And…I was always most invested in Perrin and Mat and especially the girls. That Rand finally did something interesting besides sitting crazy around Cairhean was a relief (only reading his chapters for Nynaeve). And it had all the Matt meeting Tuon. So I don’t think it was until Crossroads of Twilight that I got really frustrated with the stall on rescuing Faile, and at least that book had the plot moving with Matt and Tuon. But yeah, the nadir of the series (though Rand’s chapter especially post Dumai’s Well were the parts I barely read through). Knife of Dreams I got the sense the author was realizing it was time to stop some of the plot stalling and start picking things back up to march towards endgame. The last three, of course, a mixed bag of some really great moments, some writing fumbles, last battle wrap everything up with a lot called in advance but also a few neat surprises.
I got so upset about them last week. Just washing the dishes….then RAGE!
Sometimes I think about AMOL and just … ugh~~~
Those Min chapters in the beginning of the fifth book where she’s on the run with Leanne and Suian and Loghain were the only time I liked Min, with Gareth’s Javert-esque hunt after them, and I was chuckling with excitement during his POV chapters how he kept thinking of Suian without realizing who she was – and their adorably ‘can’t admit it to ourselves let alone each other’ will-they-won’t-they romantic tension… They were my 2nd tier OTP and that they didn’t get to have semi-retired (ha neither would have settled down to that farm) politicking and ruling life post-Final Battle… *grrr*
(IT WAS AN EITHER/OR! YOU COULD HAVE PICKED THE OTHER COIN FLIP!)
Ugh, I think that’s why I loved the 4th and 5th books so much, that White Tower coup and Salidar plot-line that was so different (that the Deposed Wise Magical Organization Authority survived the predictable removal to open up more drama and had a story after that event is novel and neat). Plus that’s around the point Rand’s chapters started their long slide into ‘cannot stand’. (Ugh, by book six I was already only reading his plot-line by sheer willpower. Which is bad because he was the most central character and in the first two books he was as enjoyable as the other leads. Book Three was one of the best for him ;3 , just for how behind the scenes and between the lines.)
I was very actively stalking online all the theories and Arthurian/mythology/etc.. symbolism and decoding the prophecies, so the whole Rand/Moridin ‘twist’ ending was something that had been called in advance. It wasn’t shocking. And Rand barely redeemed himself for me in the last two books anyway (barely) so I was waiting and hoping for his final sacrifice so he’d finally be gone.
(WoT is also why I forget and then get very annoyed with prophecies in ASoIaF, because I have my giant fantasy series where the crux of plotting involves various characters molding their actions off of prophecies (and are the prophecies of the same persona and are some accurate or dueling or what) and trying to understand their meaning and misreading them or conflicting because of them and magical artifacts. It’s central to WoT. Straight-up prophecies in ASoIaF feel invasive. It’s this weird feeling of mine.)
And Egwene we speak not of. Or Gawyn (poor baby. ugh when he picked up the blood-raven-shadow rings thingies, I knew in the pit of my stomach and still was in denial ‘til several chapters after it happened)
That idea of the Knight and the poisoned maiden tho 😥
I’m 99% sure it was a short story and I think I remember that the POV character was this squire or maybe a girl in disguise wanting to be a squire. but I remember the knight-in-sour-armor and giving the latest in a long line of sacrificial maidens the poppy juice to dull the pain of being staked out in the open for the dragon to eat her, and the knight ambushing it afterwards.
And frankly with The Princess and the Queen fresh on my mind, it does seem to be the sort of tale suited for Westeros, yes? That ‘here’s the nasty unheroic underhanded reality of our fantasy world, with violence against mostly nameless women’. Also, dragons aren’t anyone’s friends.